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Re: Dyslexia assessment of high achieving individuals

From:

A Velarde <[log in to unmask]>

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Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.

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Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:31:15 -0000

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Yes?. Andy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rees,Ann Elizabeth" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: Dyslexia assessment of high achieving individuals


A Velarde wrote:
> Hello Robert. Thank you for your thoughts.
> Prologue:The person I refer to is just one (I guess I am the source of
> the personality split as I translated the word from Spanish into English
> (you know the eastern of the Severn  language)
> 1- No if it is not literacy we are concern to.
> 2.-I guess there is no need to answer this one. Just in case, only
> 0.00000001% of the world population have had the option of opting out as
> you did.
> 3.- With in parameters of objectivity, standards of which my
> psychologist friends have worked so hard in the last 50 years to
> demonstrate that Psychology is a science
> 4.- The test is a statistical provability: meaning that the results do
> not say, truly, that you are, or its is true, but that there  are
> statistical probabilities to think that your case does not fit the
> standard deviations that mean that you are not/it is not true you are
> not. As you may be guessing, statistics have had direct responsibility
> on the construction of the disability category (L. Davis) and that is
> the real reason why dyslexia is still a contested subject, not because
> it doesn't exit.
> 5.- I guess the person will travel to visit a good competent
> professional (similarly to anyone that would make an effort to be seen
> by a leading consultant and not take the truth of the  'here is your
> painkiller' gp)
> Epilogue. Ta. I'll send your email to the person requesting the info.
> Best, Andy
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Edwards Robert (CeLL) <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>     To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>     Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:33 PM
>     Subject: Re: Dyslexia assessment of high achieving individuals
>
>     I'm intrigued by my own reactions to Andy's posting below. It has
>     prompted all sorts of thoughts (including my confusion over whether
>     there are two individuals -- a physics lecturer and a physics
>     professor -- or just one). I'd like to share some of them:
>
>     1) Is assessment of dyslexia in high achieving individuals any
>     different, in essence, from assessment in lesser individuals?
>
>     2) There's an apparent assumption that physics lecturers are high
>     achieving individuals. Is that valid? I've been a physics lecturer,
>     and I don't regard myself as high achieving. (On second thoughts,
>     perhaps that's why I'm no longer a physics lecturer!)
>
>     3) Assessment of dyslexia is always subjective to some extent.
>     Different psychologists will come to different conclusions for the
>     same individual. I know I am over-simplifying, but it is almost true
>     that dyslexia is indicated by showing a certain pattern of
>     behaviours; that anyone showing that pattern is most likely to be
>     dyslexic; and that some people can recognise that pattern in
>     themselves and so assess themselves, as the lecturer mentioned
>     appears to have done already.
>
>     4) Is the perception that dyslexia is something that people either
>     "have" or "don't have", that only a highly trained expert can tell
>     the difference, and that such a person's opinion is absolute, still
>     prevalent?
>
>     5) I can certainly understand anyone's curiosity leading them to
>     seek an assessment for their own interest. I am puzzled by what
>     reasons anyone might have for expecting to need to "travel anywhere
>     in the country" to find it. Do professionals working in the field of
>     dyslexia still emanate an aura of magic and mystery?
>
>     Please understand: I'm not getting at anyone at all -- I'd just like
>     to know what other people think of my thoughts.
>
>     (And, incidentally, Andy, I'm very happy to mention at least three
>     Ed Psychs I've met who would, I believe, give good opinions, if
>     you'd like to contact me off-list.)
>
>     Best wishes,
>
>     Robert
>
>     Robert Edwards
>     Combined Studies Unit & Disability and Dyslexia Service/
>        Uned Astudiaethau Cyfun a Sylfan a Gwasanaethau Anabledd a
Dyslecsia
>     University of Glamorgan/Prifysgol Morgannwg
>     Pontypridd
>     Tel/Ffon: 01443 482981 & 654164
>     Fax/Ffacs: 01443 482170 & 654175
>
>
>
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------
------
>         From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support
>         staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of A Velarde
>         Sent: 07 March 2007 13:47
>         To: [log in to unmask]
>         Subject: Fw: Dyslexia assessment of high achieving individuals
>
>         Dear Colleagues. I recently received a request to find out a
>         suitable psychologist to test for dyslexia a professor
>         (physics). Would you be able to recommend a good professional?
>         Many thanks, Andy
>
>
>
>         To: A Velarde <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>         Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:21 AM
>         Subject: Dyslexia assessment of high achieving individuals
>
>         Dear Andy,
>         The child of a Physics lecturer has recently been diagnosed as
>         being dyslexic.
>
>         The lecturer herself believes that she might also be dyslexic as
>         she recognises the type of difficulties of her child but
>         managed to develop strategies to compensate.  She would like to
>         be assessed by an Ed Psychologist with experience of testing
>         individuals with her profile.
>
>         Any ideas who might be suitable.  She is ready to travel
>         anywhere in the country.
>         Thank you,
>

WHAT?????

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