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Re: Edinburgh: BNIM as awful promoter of the detached observer, or was it the intersubjective psychoanalytic gruesome twosome (thanks Don Jackson for the last phrase)?

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Bogusia Temple <[log in to unmask]>

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Bogusia Temple <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:00:21 +0100

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I didn't organise the day and its not my seminar series but I don't
think it was set up with the intension of limiting the opportunity to
speak.  I think it was intended to do the opposite, i.e. give those who
felt they couldn't ask a question a chance to write it down. Some people
said they preferred writing questions down.  It seems others would have
preferred the chance to speak.  I suppose there are pros and cons to be
ways of doing this.

Bogusia

Bogusia Temple
Professor of Health and Social Care Research 
01772 895461
>>> Tom Wengraf <[log in to unmask]> 03/28/07 4:33 PM >>>
Ursula s email does help to clarify what happened   especially if, like
me,
you weren t at the seminar. 

 

It is interesting that some people attack BNIM because it is seen as
taking
an  objective observer stance  and accepting the notion of, or even one
particular model of,  an objective reality  out there , and that others
attack it because it is seen as requiring them to adopt a model of
subjectivity, even one associated with people not being capable of full
transparency to themselves. Full objectivists are happier with the 
lived
life  strand on its own because it apparently deals only with facts
experienced as  hard ; full subjectivists are happier with the  telling
of
the told story  strand on its own because it apparently deals  only with
 the life as subjectively experienced and expressed . Both would be
happier
with BNIM if the  other strand  were hallucinated out of experience.
Part of
the value of BNIM is that it does enable both sides to be thought about
separately and then asks the researcher to think about both aspects
together.

 

The formal properties of BNIM are such that it is quite compatible with
nearly all epistemologies and nearly all ontologies, and with all models
of
the external world and all models of the internal world that any
particular
researcher (and their panel members) may wish to bring to the task ((or
exclude from formal consideration)) of understanding. Such formal models
that people  believe in  and bring to the task of interpretation are
tested
by their relative capacity to deal with the data that BNIM provides in
the
procedures with which BNIM organizes their presentation. 

 

BNIM is as compatible with, say, a psychoanalytic model of behaviour and
experience as it is with a  conditioning model  or an  economic man
model .,
or any other folk or social-science model. It doesn t require or exclude
any
explicit model or any of the multiple implicit models we carry around
and
make sense of the world with. It does provide a context in which the
 carriers  or  advocates  of any set of model or models are asked to
make
the best sense they can of incoming data, , irrespective of any formal
model
they choose to use to make that best sense. 

 

The great advantage of a BNIM panel is that you aren t asked or required
to
give the theoretical model you are supposed to have used to come up with
your experiential, following or structural hypotheses: you are just
asked to
have a hypothesis (from wherever, who cares?), have it written up on the
board (with no references), and then to have yourself or somebody else
come
up with a counter-hypothesis or tangential hypothesis. This procedure
avoids
theb not very fruitful   paradigm wars  with their anxious attacks on
each
other s defenses ..

Best wishes

 

Tom

 

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020-8883-9297

 

For a free copy of the current 'Short Guide to BNIM (biographical
narrative
interpretive method) research interviewing', please send me details of
your
institutional affiliation and for what research or teaching purpose you
might wish to use BNIM. I'll mail you a copy right back.

 

   _____  

From: Ursula Murray [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: 28 March 2007 14:47
To: Tom Wengraf
Subject: Edinburgh 

 

Dear Tom and Prue, 
The Edinburgh seminar was interesting not least for the  very strongly
negative stance of two speakers to psychoanalysis. They  equated it with
an
 anxious and defended subject  and BNIM was  referred to on several
occasions as their main target. In fact I think  their psychoanalytic
understanding was equated with BNIM. The seminar was constructed in such
a
way that very few opportunities arose to speak. We didn t get chance in
the
morning but were invited to put questions on paper  over lunch which
were
collated. I think there was a lot of strong feeling around and the major
question then  emerged around  psychoanalytic thinking.  One person in
the
audience was invited to put the case and charged the speakers with
 trashing  psychoanalysis etc., plus making the argument  that I would
have
raised which is  how narrow a definition and limited an understanding is
in
play here.  
Anyway thought you would be interested ...
Ursula 


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