I agree, Roger. Humans should not be owned,
only rented.
Hal
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On Jan 24, 2007, at 12:49 AM, Roger Day wrote:
> Yes, I agree about Eliot, somewhat about Kipling. I cannot forgive
> support of slavery or anti-semitism, even implicit. Clear-eyed.
>
> I wouldn't forgive a *modern poet the same things.
>
> Roger
>
> On 1/24/07, Robin Hamilton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >> How, by the way, would you scan this line from Lear? "Break,
>> break,
>> >> break,
>> >> break, break!"
>>
>> > Oh, man, I must be tired. Is that line from Lear? I can't find
>> it online
>> > when I check.
>> >
>> > jd
>>
>> I think you're thinking of "Never, never, never, never, never" --
>> break
>> from "break, break, break, / On your cold gray stones, oh sea"?
>> [K, that's
>> not it, but something like. Whitman?]
>>
>> >> (In any case, Auden's sentiments seem just. But who the hell
>> was Paul
>> >> Claudel?)
>>
>> Well, the Later Auden wouldn't have agreed about the sentiments -- he
>> chopped that and I think the preceding four lines from the later
>> versions of
>> "Elegy for W.B.Yeats". At least he didn't disavow the entire
>> poem, the way
>> he did "September 1939".
>>
>> Claudel was a French rightwing writer, not exactly flavour of the
>> month when
>> Auden wrote the poem in the late thirties.
>>
>> I find it easier to forgive Pound his fascism than Eliot his
>> antisemitism in
>> "Burbank with a Baedekar, Bleistein with a Cigar".
>>
>> Robin
>>
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