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Re: Litter Louts

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"Broom, Doreen" <[log in to unmask]>

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Broom, Doreen

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Tue, 9 Jan 2007 16:55:34 -0000

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Do you honestly think that by naming and shaming litter louts it will
make them turn over a new leaf. More likely, just as those receiving
ASBOs - they'll treat it as a badge of honour especially being on the
internet.....oooooh, my street cred has just gone up!!!

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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Burgess
Sent: 09 January 2007 16:50
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Litter Louts

There is a clear difference between publishing photos of people caught
by CCTV camera committing criminal (including anti-social)acts in order
to facilitate identification, which is a wholly legitimate act, and
publishing photos of known "litter louts" in order to name and shame. As
far as I am aware we have not yet decided in this country that public
humiliation is an appropriate form of punishment for offenders - if and
when we do so it should be as the result of national public debate, not
at the discretion of individual councils, vigilante groups and right
wing tabloids. I am personally concerned about the way some councils
appear to be jumping on the same bandwagon as right wing newspapers in
wanting to generate anger against people who are committing quite
trivial offences like dropping litter. I heard a talk in programme on
the radio a couple of weeks ago in which the presenter suggested as a
topic "are you sick of your neighbours who won't recycle?" It had never
occurred to me that this was something to get angry about, although it
is undoubtedly an important environmental issue. And incidently, the
street I live in is on the route to a school and usually deep in
discarded crisp packets, fizzy drink bottles etc. I don't like it and
have asked the council to make more effort to deal with it, but I don't
want to see children's photos staring at me from billboards as prototype
villains.

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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Antoinette Carter
Sent: 09 January 2007 16:17
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Litter Louts

I think the difference is that aggrieved families of victims and/or
vigilante groups don't tend to target litter louts in quite the same
way! I can remember reading about a terrible case in Liverpool of a man
beaten to death by a mob who believed him to be a paedophile, when it
was a case of mistaken identity and he was a perfectly innocent member
of the public.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Scourfield, Brenda
Sent: 09 January 2007 09:57
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Litter Louts

Strange how we hesitate to publish photos of murderers, but
litter-louts, now that's different.

Brenda Scourfield
Team Leader
I.T. Division
Pembrokeshire County Council
County Hall
Haverfordwest
SA61 1 TP
 
Tel 01437 775380

> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Turner
> Sent: 09 January 2007 09:50
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Litter Louts
>
> I can't remember if it actually happened, but I was certainly asked
for
> advice by one of my colleagues last year who had photos of people in
the
> act of dropping litter who wanted to publish the images in order to
> identify them. I feel certain that I advised them that if their main
> purpose was to identify the offender, then I thought that S29 would
> probably apply. Looked at another way, I might also have said that it
was
> legitimate interest. If someone asked me again, I probably would give
the
> same advice.
>
> What I can say for certain is that my instinct would be to make the
case
> for publication. I don't see why one should take a restrictive
approach
> when dealing with anti-social behaviour. If we had a photo of a bloke,
and
> some other bloke said he was a litter lout, then I would say that
> publication was excessive. However, if a council has images of a
person
> caught in the act, I think the pendulum swings in the other direction.

>
> The Article 8 right to privacy in the HRA isn't absolute. I don't know

> whether the intrusion into the right to privacy is proportionate, but
it's
> worth considering. If anti-social behaviour, potentially criminal
> behaviour happens in a public place, the debate on where the DP and HR

> considerations go is a lot wider than it might first appear.
>
> Tim Turner
> Data Protection / FOI Officer
> Legal and Property Services
> Wigan Council
>
> _____
>
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bownes David
(CEX)
> Sent: Tue 09 January 2007 09:17
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Litter Louts
>
>
> Not so sure about that.... See:
> <http://www.peterborough.gov.uk/page-9191> for example - pictures of
> "suspected" litter louts - crime, prevention or detection ... etc.
>
> David Bownes
> Data Protection and Security Officer, Sheffield City Council, Chief
> Executive's Directorate, Corporate Resources, PO Box 1283, Sheffield
S1
> 1UJ. Tel: 0114 2736891 FAX: 0114 2735576
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Broom, Doreen [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 09 January 2007 09:11
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [data-protection] Litter Louts
>
>
> All
>
> Further to the refusal to disclose escaped murderers - did you
see
> the articles about a Council down south (can't remember which one) but

> they are disclosing photos of litter louts who refuse to pay fines on
the
> web and asking the public to inform who they are!! Extra revenue
> obviously overrides the HR Act and DP Act....
>
>
> Doreen Broom
> Access to Information Officer
> Corporate Resources - Corporate Administration
> Tel: 01835 826516
> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
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