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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Greenhalgh" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: VL: VL: VL: VL: Transcription software
Dear Paivi and Pentti
Thank you for progressing this question to a satifactory answer. I
understand the key issues here, with no surprises.
.. and a Happy Christmas to you as well.
Roy Greenhalgh
Quoting Pentti Luoma <[log in to unmask]>:
> Hi
>
> Here's Päivi's answer she wanted me to post to this list. I hope it's
> satisfactory.
>
> I'm giving up working as a middleman. You can contact Päivi directly (her
> address below), if you need more information about FreeSpeech.
>
> Best regards and Season's Greetings!
>
> Pentti Luoma
>
> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
> Lähettäjä: Rissanen Päivi [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Lähetetty: 19. joulukuuta 2006 12:21
> Vastaanottaja: [log in to unmask]
> Aihe: Re:VL: VL: VL: Transcription software
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm afraid that the program won't work the way which Roy Greenhalf has
> described. I tested the program with a tv-set by putting a microphone near
> the tv's loudspeaker, but I was disappointed. Sometimes it wrote something
> correctly but the system demands the speaker to pronounce nearly
> perfectly.
> Can we ask those persons whom we interview to speak exellent language? I
> think not.
> If Roy separates each voice and teaches the program to recognise it,
> perhaps
> it works successfully even if everybody speaks just correctly. The
> FreeSpeech program has to be "taught" by reading text to the program. So,
> the owner of the voice should personally be present teaching the program.
> It
> takes a few minutes.
> Then the voice owner will be named as a user, e.g. "Roy". I think it's
> much
> easier to use a "parrot-method"; first you listen to a part of the
> interview
> on the earphones and then say the same words with your own voice by using
> the microphone, and at the same time correct the speech of the interviewed
> person.
> It takes less time than type-writing.
>
> BR,
>
> Päivi Rissanen
>
>
>
>
> Pentti Luoma (18.12.2006 15:31):
>> Hei
>>
>> Tällaisia kysymyksiä tuli listalta. Miten vastaisit?
>>
>>
>> Terveisin
>> Pentti
>>
>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>> Lähettäjä: qual-software [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Puolesta
>> Roy Greenhalgh
>> Lähetetty: 18. joulukuuta 2006 12:45
>> Vastaanottaja: [log in to unmask]
>> Aihe: Re: VL: VL: Transcription software
>>
>> Pentti
>>
>> Thanks for your note, which leaves me confused!
>>
>> I read that the software can handle 10 voices, "but it can be
>>> taught to convert about 10 different speakers' voices. In that case
>>> all the persons which are speaking should need a personal computer at
>>> this moment, because one "FreeSpeech" is able to recognise only one
>>> voice
>> at a time."
>>
>> Does this mean that I could have 1 copy on my PC, and when I "play" the
>> recording, it can a) separate out the 10 voices and b) recognise speech
>> from each of them and make, say, a 90 per cent accurate "translation"?
>> I assume that I need the voice characteristics file of each of the 10
>> speakers on my PC, or is this no longer needed?
>>
>> Regards..
>>
>> Roy Greenhalgh
>>
>>
>> Quoting Pentti Luoma <[log in to unmask]>:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> When I asked Päivi Rissanen, if the speech to text -option were only
>>> "an urban myth", her answer was "no". She kindly promised me to
>>> forward her views (see below) on the use of Philips Free Speech Viva
>>> to
>> the list.
>>>
>>> I'll send a copy of this message to Päivi, too.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Pentti Luoma
>>>
>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>>> Lähettäjä: Rissanen Päivi [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> Lähetetty: 18. joulukuuta 2006 9:45
>>> Vastaanottaja: [log in to unmask]
>>> Aihe: Re:VL: Transcription software
>>>
>>> Hi Pentti,
>>>
>>> I think that it isn't just an urban myth, while it's possibilities
>>> are limited. It doesn't work directly with group discussions etc.,
>>> but it can be taught to convert about 10 different speakers' voices.
>>> In that case all the persons which are speaking should need a
>>> personal computer at this moment, because one "FreeSpeech" is able to
>>> recognise
>> only one voice at a time.
>>>
>>> I have used it in my interwiew-research. The method I used was not
>>> comfortable. Background information: I had to tell the story of the
>>> person whom I had interwiewed on a video. But, the program was rather
>>> good and "willing to learn to be better" recognizing my style of
>>> speech during the work. It took less time to speak and correct than
>>> to
>> write it manually.
>>>
>>> The step which every researcher of human sciences has dreamed about
>>> is still far away. Meaning that the program works like a quick
>>> secretary:
>>> immediately, when you or any member of a group has said something,
>>> even with an accent, the program writes it correctly and it also uses
>>> different fonts with different speakers.
>>>
>>> The giant step after that would be the program, which recognises the
>>> thoughts of the interwiewed persons - so that they don't even have to
>>> speak during an interwiew - or is that only a dream of the future?
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Päivi Rissanen
>>>
>>
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