Did Elaine Pagel make direct reference to the
work/spirituality of Yeats?
In which of her works?
I havent read any of her work for ages, and would be
interested.
Many Thanks
Charlotte
--- mina <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Diane,
>
> Thank you for your words.
> Of course, there are many reference books and
> occult books for supporting my theory directly and
> indirectly, although it is so difficult for me to
> show my personal experinces. When I investigated and
> collected my resources for studying, Harold Bloom's
> opinion helped to my theory about Yeats's Christian
> Gnosticism.
> Of course, there are so many reference books but
> the main sources are Yeats's poetry, his
> autobiographies, short stories, his mystic book, A
> Vision and so on. Especially, George Mills Harper's
> Yeats's Occultism, Kathleen Raine's Yeats the
> Initate, Nag Hammadi Library, Elain Pagels, Oriental
> Philosophy, Rosicrucianism, Cabbalah, and so on. If
> there is the Divine feminine, the book will support
> Yeats's theory and magic for the Immortal Rose.
> Right now I can write the all names of the writers,
> but Rosicrucian adepts's writings also support
> Yeats's theory and prophecy. Therefore, Yeats's
> prophetic poetry is based on Cabbalism,
> Rosicrucianism, Christian Gnosticism, and Oriental
> philosophies.
>
> However, the explanation of Yeats's poetry for the
> Divine feminine, Immortal Rose in detail may be
> written by my intuition and analysis so it is my
> unique theory.
>
> There are still many mystic things about Yeats's
> magic and poetry, I think. Especially, Yeats's
> Spirit photo was declared as a fake one. However,
> who could dare say that? How about Yeats's
> personaly experience about his unknown instructors
> and many miracle experience including his dream? His
> poetry was built by symbols so it's a supreme
> mysticism. Although I have many excellent reference
> books such as Harold Bloom, George M. Harper,
> Kathleen Raine, Elain Pagels and so one, the most
> important key is my intuition and personal
> experince.
> He is such a great priest to wake up Immortal
> Rose, and he left his messages for his descendants
> in the future.
>
> Mina
>
> diane yoder <[log in to unmask]> ¾²±â:
> Mina,
>
> "Academic study" means that you have found other
> scholarly sources (i.e. books, journal articles that
> are peer-reviewed by others in the academic
> community, other evidence) that support your
> beliefs. Has anyone in the academic community
> published on your theory?
>
> Diane Yoder
> Antioch University-McGregor
> Yellow Springs, OH
>
> On 11/26/06, mina <[log in to unmask] > wrote:
> How can academic study about magic?
> Yes, as a scholar, I have studied his poetry for
> over 15years and finally I made my theory.
> Therefore, I declared he is the great priest for
> Sophia, Immortal Rose. I hope all sages and
> magicians will come back to the greatest white
> magician as Yeats prophesied. How can we understand
> and show the evidence of the magic?
> The supreme and secret magic will be solved,
> although it is looks like impossible to do. How we
> can know it? Those are our behaviour and theses
> like this forum of Academic-study -magic?
> As a Yeatsian, I can see the processing of Yeats's
> prophecy and I have promoted it.
>
> He already gave the Immortal Rose in the world
> prophetic words:
>
> Dear shadows, now you know it all,
> All the folly of a fight
> With a common wrong or right.
> The innocent and the beautiful.
> Have no enemy but time;
> Arise and bid me strike a match
> And strike another till time catch;
> Should the conflagration climb,
> Run till all the sages know.
> We the great gazebo built,
> They convicted us of guilt;
> Bid me strike a match and blow
>
>
> Let's analyze this poem. Yes, it is prophetic
> poem. It is the messenger of Sophia's prophecy,
> mystic poem. It is King Athur's Magic Sword.
> Yeats was defeated and he has waited for the right
> time, and he wrote the importatant messeage for
> Immortal Rose to do in the future " Arise and bid me
> strike a match / Should the conflagration climb, /
> Run till all the sages know."
>
> Yeats is waiting for the Immortal Rose will be
> awakened and arise by his calling with his love
> poems and bid him to old ancient wisdom will come
> and spread.
> Who is the real priest for Immortal Rose, Divine
> feminine?
> It is time for New Age. Yeats shows his prophecy,
> The Second Coming and recovery of the Divine
> Feminine in his whole poetry and many stories.
> His words and authority are all from God, his
> unknown instructors. His role was the masculine
> principle, Christ and he left his poetry for the
> feminine principle to awaken. Yes, the masculine
> principle, Christ protects the feminine principle,
> Sophia. How can we show the evidence of his unknown
> instructors and the presence of the hidden Goddess,
> Holy Grail in the world? Only God allows it to the
> chosen man.
> I have the evidence of Yeats as the greatest
> gnostic priest and chosen man from his whole poetry
> and his anotehr works such as essays and short story
> books. I opened his prophecy in academic area as a
> my Ph.D . thesis and my many other theses. He has
> the greatest vision for future generation, our
> generation, so I have tried to show it. We can make
> the evidence of God's will, Yeats's prophecy by
> analyzing his whole poetry and declaring and showing
> all miracle things in academic study areas.
> Although my theory is looks like my personal
> opinion, at least I can help Yeats's prophetic
> poetry and God's will as Yeats prophesied. And I
> can do "Run till all the sages know." It is miracle
> and magic so I at least analyze Yeats's mystic
> poetry and now it seemed to my own belief but it is
> from God's will analyzed Yeats's whole messages to
> his descendants.
>
> Mina
>
> diane yoder <[log in to unmask] > ¾²±â:
> Such statements as "Yeats was chosen by God" hold
> more to a glib personal belief than something that
> can be discussed in an academic manner.
>
> Although I do agree Yeats' occult beliefs are
> understudied in English literature. Those of us in
> the discipline of Religion and Literature are keen
> on studying his religious/occult beliefs.
>
> Diane Yoder
> MA candidate
> Antioch University-McGregor
> Yellow Springs, Ohio
>
> On 11/26/06, mina < [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Mogg and list,
>
> Mogg:
>
> I like the comments about Yeats - I agree he is a
> much misunderstood
> magical genius - on the otherhand comments such as
> 'crowley was a black
> magician' is a bit too glib - you need to say more -
> especially on such
> a list.
>
>
> I understand your words, mogg. I don't know
> Crowley's magic, because I don't need to study it.
> However, I know Yeats is a great white magician and
> he was chosen man by God to sacred duty for the
> feminine prinicple, Daughter Sophia who is staying
> with mankind. Yeats's poetic purpose is to awaken
> Sophia. You may can know when you only read his Rose
> poetry. The last 2000 years was dark age and
> masculine age so the feminine principle was hidden.
> I think all magicians and hermits's final purposes
> are to acheive "Unity of Being" as Yeats emphasized:
> unite the masculine and the feminine principles.
> Although Yeats is looks like defeated man, he and
> all heavens are witing for the right time, because
> God only decided time to Judge and clean up the
> world. Yeats is waiting for his descendants, the
> upstanding young men. Nowadays, I find Yeats has
> not been to acknowledged as the great magician and
> the priest for Sophia as the last prophet for
> Immortal Rose. It is all God's will so
> Yeats also is waiting for the right time.
> All magicians and sages should know Yeats's
> messages in his magic poems. And I think it will be
> happened because "there is no enemy but tiem."
> I have read some books of Rosicrucianism,
> Cabalism, I do not study OTO ritual. However, I at
> least think it is time for us to know Yeats's magic
> power and open his great message for coming New
> World,
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