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Subject:

OTO Ritual

From:

Charlotte Rodgers <[log in to unmask]>

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Society for The Academic Study of Magic <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 27 Nov 2006 18:35:16 +0000

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Maya Deren, in her definitive book on Haitian Voudoun
'The Divine Horsemen' posits that her that her success
in the relating of and to the Voudoun religion of
Haiti was because she was an artist, which gave her
the ability to recognise 'facts of the mind' when
presented with the ''fictions' of mythology'..ie
relate and respond to the form of a belief system
without being bogged down by the intellectualisation
of the composition of said form.
Another interesting theory she put forth, was that as
an artist, who could be considered to be an outsider
from mainstream society, she had a greater ability to
relate to ideas and beliefs that also dwelt on the
fringes of the accepted 'norm'.
That said, surely this forum is to imform inspire and
challenge whilst trying to work within structures of
academic form.

Charlotte


> 
> My Master's thesis from California State University
> San Marcos is on De
> Magia naturali by Jacques Lefèvre d'Étaples. The
> highest rung of his
> Academic epistemology and methodology is intellect,
> which he equates with
> intuition and faith. I am a poet; to me this
> treatise is poetry that lives
> and breathes magic through word imagery, symbolism.
> We can't allow History
> to remain static only because it is already written
> to the personal taste of
> some, by those whom they've magically sanctioned to
> tell the story.
> 
> We must resign ourselves to continue this dialogue
> between intuition and
> fact, and to have compassion for one another in our
> efforts at
> self-expression through Academic theses.
> 
> Kathryn LaFevers Evans
> MA CSUSM
> Independent Scholar
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Charlotte Rodgers
> <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] More OTO ritual
> 
> 
> Did Elaine Pagel make direct reference to the
> work/spirituality of Yeats?
> In which of her works?
> I havent read any of her work for ages, and would be
> interested.
> Many Thanks
> Charlotte
> --- mina <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Diane,
> >
> >   Thank you for your words.
> >   Of course, there are many reference books and
> > occult books for supporting my theory directly and
> > indirectly, although it is so difficult for me to
> > show my personal experinces. When I investigated
> and
> > collected my resources for studying,  Harold
> Bloom's
> > opinion helped to my theory about Yeats's
> Christian
> > Gnosticism.
> >   Of course, there are so many reference books but
> > the main sources are  Yeats's poetry, his
> > autobiographies, short stories,  his mystic book,
> A
> > Vision and so on.  Especially, George Mills
> Harper's
> > Yeats's Occultism, Kathleen Raine's Yeats the
> > Initate, Nag Hammadi Library, Elain Pagels,
> Oriental
> > Philosophy, Rosicrucianism, Cabbalah, and so on. 
> If
> > there is the Divine feminine, the book will
> support
> > Yeats's theory and magic for the Immortal Rose.
> > Right now I can write the all names of the
> writers,
> > but Rosicrucian adepts's writings also support
> > Yeats's theory and prophecy. Therefore, Yeats's
> > prophetic poetry is based on Cabbalism,
> > Rosicrucianism, Christian Gnosticism, and Oriental
> > philosophies.
> >
> >   However, the explanation of Yeats's poetry for
> the
> > Divine feminine, Immortal Rose in detail may be
> > written by my intuition and analysis so it is my
> > unique theory.
> >
> >   There are still many mystic things about Yeats's
> > magic and poetry, I think. Especially, Yeats's
> > Spirit photo was declared as  a fake one. However,
> > who could  dare say that? How about Yeats's
> > personaly experience about his unknown instructors
> > and many miracle experience including his dream?
> His
> > poetry was built by symbols so it's a supreme
> > mysticism. Although I have many excellent
> reference
> > books such as Harold Bloom, George M. Harper,
> > Kathleen Raine, Elain Pagels and so one,   the
> most
> > important key is my intuition and personal
> > experince.
> >   He is such a great priest to wake up Immortal
> > Rose, and he left his messages for his descendants
> > in the future.
> >
> >       Mina
> >
> > diane yoder <[log in to unmask]> ¾²±â:
> >   Mina,
> >
> > "Academic study" means that you have found other
> > scholarly sources (i.e. books, journal articles
> that
> > are peer-reviewed by others in the academic
> > community, other evidence) that support your
> > beliefs.  Has anyone in the academic community
> > published on your theory?
> >
> > Diane Yoder
> > Antioch University-McGregor
> > Yellow Springs, OH
> >
> >   On 11/26/06, mina <[log in to unmask] >
> wrote:
> >   How can academic study about magic?
> >   Yes, as a scholar, I have studied his poetry for
> > over 15years and finally I made my theory.
> >   Therefore, I declared he is the great priest for
> > Sophia, Immortal Rose. I hope all sages and
> > magicians will come back to the greatest white
> > magician as Yeats prophesied. How can we
> understand
> > and show the evidence of the magic?
> >   The supreme and secret magic will be solved,
> > although it is looks like impossible to do. How we
> > can know it?  Those are our behaviour and theses
> > like this forum of Academic-study -magic?
> >   As a Yeatsian, I can see the processing of
> Yeats's
> > prophecy and I have promoted it.
> >
> >   He already gave the Immortal Rose in the world
> > prophetic words:
> >
> >     Dear shadows, now you know it all,
> > All the folly of a fight
> > With a common wrong or right.
> 
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