Tina, I'm glad you said that. Why on earth shouldn't they wear veils? I've
been reading about this idiot Jack Straw saying it makes him uneasy not to
be sure what they're thinking if he can't see their faces, and wondering
what makes him so sure he has the right to know what they're thinking
anyway. If the veils make him uneasy, that's his problem.
joanna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tina Bass" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: Written In The Hope That Gillian McKeith Chokes On Someone
Else's Vomit
> Okay Dominic,
>
> You've set me off now. I don't know anything about Gillian McKeith but I
> am really bothered by the recent anti-muslim turn in the tabloid press. I
> work with many muslims (and have done for the whole of my adult working
> life). I talk to many muslim students and I am very concerned by what I
> am reading in the press. For one thing, 'muslim' is an incredibly broad
> term. I share an office with a muslim woman with a maly/singapore
> background. I would find it impossible to lump her into a category that
> included some of my pakistani students, for instance...
>
> Your message is not my only trigger. I received a copy of 'The Sun'
> through my letterbox this morning, by accident. The lead story is about a
> 'Muslim hate mob' who wrecked a house containing some 'hero soldiers back
> from Afghanistan'. The footer bears a picture of a woman wearing a Niqab
> with a headline referring to the Burqa (never mind they all look the same
> don't they?).
>
> I am really disturbed by recent calls for feminists to argue against
> muslim veils. Since the French government outlawed veils I have seen a
> marked increase in the politicisation of Muslim women students and an
> obvious increase in the number of them that have 'taken the veil'. Let
> Muslims and Mulsim women, in particular, sort it out for themselves.
> Pressure from outside merely increases pressure on the inside and helps
> no-one.
>
> p.s. I'm sure that if journalists from The Sun had tried really hard they
> would have found far more racial attacks upon muslims/non-whites than
> vice-versa yesterday. Where there is a will there is a way, as they say.
>
> Tina
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dominic Fox" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 10:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Written In The Hope That Gillian McKeith Chokes On Someone
> Else's Vomit
>
>
>> On 10/7/06, Jennifer Compton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> just iot back to poetryetc after 6 months away
>>> how has gillian mckeith offended?
>>>
>>
>> By existing. Although her existence were in itself innocuous, or at
>> worst mildly nocuous. By being a symptom, then, of a general
>> condescension, buttressed by bogus credentials and with sinister
>> overtones.
>>
>> Jimmy Carr, on the telly the other night: "We need a little chlorine
>> in the gene pool". Jonathon Ross, that same evening: "Maybe we ought
>> to put something in the water to stop some people from reproducing.
>> *cough* Council estates! *cough*".
>>
>> This plus a ridiculous, cried-up secular-democratic fervour against
>> Muslims. As if there were more than a handful of genuine secular
>> democrats to be found anywhere between Land's End and John O'Groats.
>> As if even the worst of the Muslims were any worse than the worst of
>> the Anglicans.
>>
>> We seem to be on a mission to rival the Victorians for smug, canting
>> hypocrisy. Pity we can't also rival them for industry, social vigour
>> or scientific discovery.
>>
>> Dominic
>>
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