Hi Mathias,
Thanks. I haven't caught up with his present work.
Tasha
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From: "Mathias Dekeyser" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: Mathias Dekeyser
Hi Tasha,
That's a nice way of briefly summarizing Gendlin's development of focusing
from the therapy perspective. He presently puts forward more his work on
embodied ways of theorizing, concretized in his method "thinking at the
edge". But both traces have been developed in parallel (so I've been told).
Mathias
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From: Interdisciplinary discussion on human embodiment
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Natasha Barlow
Sent: zondag 15 oktober 2006 14:00
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Subject: Re: Mathias Dekeyser
'Hi, I guess I'd question whether Gendlin's work emerged out of
psychoanalysis - more out of Rogerian and humanistic psychotherapy - if
we're going to say it emerged from a pyschotherapeutic practice at all.'
Hi, my understanding is that gendlin was practciing Rogerian counselling,
and observed people in therapy, noticing that some people stop and pause and
appear to check 'inwardly' wio some sense, as if they are testing out ways
of expressing how things are, or checking on how well what the therpapist
says 'fits'.
Rogers work on reflecting feeling has a resonance with this too, for me
anywaqy, when he talks about teaching therapists to think in temrs of
'testing understandings' rather than 'reflecting feeling', in order to
foster, not an intent to reflect but rather a 'questioning desire'. He
describres the unspoken quesion as 'is this the way it is in you?' Anyway,
Gendlin noticed some clients doing this, and that those cleints did
well in therapy- he recorded hours on therapy and tried to demonstrate that
you could predict good outcome on the basis of whether or not the client was
focusing inwardly in this way.
I don't know how this kind of account relates to theoretcial ideas about
embodiment.
Does this fit with others understanbdings on this list?
I'm Tasha by the way, and I work as a counsellor, and have an interest in
neuroscience and philosophy. I jopined this liost because of my interest in
focusing, and losely embodied ways of thinking about the mental.But not v
knowledgable about the embodiment literature at all.
Cheers.
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From: "Franc Chamberlain" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Mathias Dekeyser
> Hi, I guess I'd question whether Gendlin's work emerged out of
> psychoanalysis - more out of Rogerian and humanistic psychotherapy -
> if we're going to say it emerged from a pyschotherapeutic practice at
> all.
>
> Ae you defing psychoanalysis very loosely here? Or do you have a
> specific way in which you think Gendlin't work emerges out of
> psychoanalysis?
>
> I'd say Csordas and Gendlin's appraoches both emerge out of
> post-Merleau-Ponty phenomenology. There's been an interesting
> discussion on the Focusing Institute discussion list about Gendlin's
> relationship to the Chicago school and the work of Richard McKeon in
> particular.
>
> thanks
>
> will say more about myself later
>
> Franc
>
>
> On 13/10/06, Adrian Harris <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Mathias wrote:
>> >My theoretical focus is on
>> >psychological contact, awareness styles and embodied empathy.
>>
>> Do you use Csordas? I've found his work on embodied states? I've also
>> found
>> Gendlin's notion of the 'felt sense' very useful, and that emerged from
>> psychoanlysis.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Adrian
>>
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