Hi Bob,
Thanks, I will take a look at your book. It would be good to find some areas
for conversation from my ground of questioning. It seems to be a subject
area where many people have an interest, but where there are gaps in terms
of articulations. Or is that just me?
Best wishes,
Tasha
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From: "Bob and Liz" <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: [BGSpam]Re: Mathias Dekeyser
> Hi Tasha,
>
> I'm interested that you work as a counsellor and your comments on
> focussing. I work as an psychotherapist and originally trained as an
> osteopath. My PhD was on embodiment in the psychotherapeutic relationship
> and I think focussing is one way of looking at this aspect of therapy. My
> interest is along the lines of why do we feel such strong physical
> feelings whilst doing therapy and now I think neuroscience is starting to
> provide some compelling evidence, eg mirror neurones etc. As for
> literature as the risk of self-publicity, if you're interested my PhD was
> the basis of my book 'The Embodied Psychotherapist' published by
> Brunner-Routledge.
> Cheers
> Bob
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> From: "Natasha Barlow" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:59 PM
> Subject: [BGSpam]Re: Mathias Dekeyser
>
>
>> 'Hi, I guess I'd question whether Gendlin's work emerged out of
>> psychoanalysis - more out of Rogerian and humanistic psychotherapy -
>> if we're going to say it emerged from a pyschotherapeutic practice at
>> all.'
>>
>>
>> Hi, my understanding is that gendlin was practciing Rogerian counselling,
>> and observed people in therapy, noticing that some people stop and pause
>> and appear to check 'inwardly' wio some sense, as if they are testing out
>> ways of expressing how things are, or checking on how well what the
>> therpapist says 'fits'.
>> Rogers work on reflecting feeling has a resonance with this too, for me
>> anywaqy, when he talks about teaching therapists to think in temrs of
>> 'testing understandings' rather than 'reflecting feeling', in order to
>> foster, not an intent to reflect but rather a 'questioning desire'. He
>> describres the unspoken quesion as 'is this the way it is in you?'
>> Anyway, Gendlin noticed some clients doing this, and that those cleints
>> did well in therapy- he recorded hours on therapy and tried to
>> demonstrate that you could predict good outcome on the basis of whether
>> or not the client was focusing inwardly in this way.
>> I don't know how this kind of account relates to theoretcial ideas about
>> embodiment.
>>
>> Does this fit with others understanbdings on this list?
>>
>> I'm Tasha by the way, and I work as a counsellor, and have an interest
>> in neuroscience and philosophy. I jopined this liost because of my
>> interest in focusing, and losely embodied ways of thinking about the
>> mental.But not v knowledgable about the embodiment literature at all.
>>
>> Cheers.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Franc Chamberlain" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 3:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mathias Dekeyser
>>
>>
>>> Hi, I guess I'd question whether Gendlin's work emerged out of
>>> psychoanalysis - more out of Rogerian and humanistic psychotherapy -
>>> if we're going to say it emerged from a pyschotherapeutic practice at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> Ae you defing psychoanalysis very loosely here? Or do you have a
>>> specific way in which you think Gendlin't work emerges out of
>>> psychoanalysis?
>>>
>>> I'd say Csordas and Gendlin's appraoches both emerge out of
>>> post-Merleau-Ponty phenomenology. There's been an interesting
>>> discussion on the Focusing Institute discussion list about Gendlin's
>>> relationship to the Chicago school and the work of Richard McKeon in
>>> particular.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> will say more about myself later
>>>
>>> Franc
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13/10/06, Adrian Harris <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Mathias wrote:
>>>> >My theoretical focus is on
>>>> >psychological contact, awareness styles and embodied empathy.
>>>>
>>>> Do you use Csordas? I've found his work on embodied states? I've also
>>>> found
>>>> Gendlin's notion of the 'felt sense' very useful, and that emerged from
>>>> psychoanlysis.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
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