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Re: Opinions needed - Gazette report: Good progress on CILIP's new business model

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Melanie Eileen Keady <[log in to unmask]>

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Melanie Eileen Keady <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:05:53 +0100

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David
Thanks for the tip about looking at their subscription model. I didn't
venture into this area yesterday!  I can join and it will only cost me
$60 a year!
Melanie

>>> David McMenemy <[log in to unmask]> 08/11/06 11:47 am
>>>
A great deal of the waste in the public sector is because of contracts
with
private companies for major IT infrastructure projects and their
spiralling
costs.  The NHS and the military have been significant victims of this
"business acumen" you speak of recently.

 

I do agree with you that ALA is an organisation we should attempt to
copy
where we can, however.  Their subscription model alone is an
interesting one
to compare to CILIP's.

 

Cheers

David

 

  _____  

From: Frances Hendrix [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: 11 August 2006 11:45
To: David McMenemy; [log in to unmask] 
Subject: RE: Opinions needed - Gazette report: Good progress on CILIP's
new
business model

 

I didn't actually say 'private sector', but commercial, and the review
Group
is supposed to be looking at a new business model.

 

In the commercial world the business model has to be a successful one
for
the business to succeed, and we cannot go on acting as if  we have a
right
to be here,  and we can look only internally., and any way I would pick
up
good ideas from anywhere I could find them.(see the reference to the
ALA), I
am not advocating private-public partnerships, but if we are to succeed
we
need to take a leaf out of other successful models, and they are not
going
to come from a small group of people with no, or very little real
business
acumen. This is what is wrong with so much that happens in a local
authority
where the waste is appalling, and places like the NHS etc.We are now in
the
real world where people make choices and  feel no real compulsion to be
a
member of Cilip, there has to be an offer they cant afford to refuse.

 

The core ethical values are fine for debating the core philosophy of
the
profession, but are not the prime expertise required to look at anew
business model. more of the same is not what will carry this profession
and
Cilip into the remainder of this century.

Also I didn't say they (The private sector, words I did not use), know
best,
as we have to look at what doesn't work as well as what does.

f 

 

  _____  

From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David McMenemy
Sent: 11 August 2006 11:27
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: Opinions needed - Gazette report: Good progress on CILIP's
new
business model

CILIP is not a commercial organisation, Frances.  The creep creep creep
of
private sector ideas into information and library provision is one of
the
potential dangers to its longevity.  

 

Personally speaking I'm sick of hearing about how the private sector
shows
the public sector the way.  It's a mantra built on political expediency
and
nothing else.  The money this current government has wasted on
public-private partnerships has been nothing short of a disgrace.  Pick
up a
copy of Private Eye for some eye opening material you'll never read in
the
newspapers.

 

Your ideas to include more young librarians is a good one, but don't
throw
out the old librarians who have the core ethical values instilled in
them
that seem to have become lost a little as the profession has moved on. 
What
the review needs is librarians from all levels, not just the Heads of
Service and that level, not just those identified as "future leaders"
but
the silent majority who work away day to day providing the services we
all
take for granted.

 

By all means look at other successful professional bodies to see what
we can
learn from them for CILIP's future, but can we have less of the
"private
sector" knows best nonsense.  The review should be about securing CILIP
not
only in body but in mind and soul.   

 

Cheers

David

 

  

 

  _____  

From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Frances Hendrix
Sent: 11 August 2006 11:21
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: Opinions needed - Gazette report: Good progress on CILIP's
new
business model

 

I couldn't agree more, and was dismayed when I read it

here is an organisation, in crisis, losing and not attracting and not
getting the support of members, and it has an internal group (with
little
business/commercial experience), looking at its own navel

 

I would also have thought that to some extent this review should also
tie in
with what the Governance Review findings are? and where is the Head of
Enterprise, surely he needs to be on this group?

 

The world has changed dramatically, and what people want from an
organisation and how they get it, and how it is promoted and marketed,
is
entirely different now than even 4 years ago. Today is all about
free/speedy/value added/easy/immediate, Cilip cant assume they know it
all
or can do it all from an internal review.  Why not talk to some of the
new
librarians who have recently been featured via Clore and the top 10,
what do
they expect and want?

 

Also what are the group regulating? The profession has changed and who
gets
employed in it has changed.

 

We need to widen our reference points and look at many other types of
organisations that are both struggling and succeeding., e.g. The AA and
the
RAC, the Institute of Directors etc. But above all talk to some new
young
librarians, whether they are professional librarians or not.

 

I do so much agree that we need some out of the box thinking, but
people who
have lived and worked out of the box. rather than council going into
break
out groups, there needs to be a commercially experienced facilitator to
put
some ideas forward and to rattle the box!

 

Thanks Chris, well said, but is anyone listening!?(and why in August
when
there is so little happening and most on holiday, maybe this is why)?

 

f 

 

  _____  

From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Armstrong
Sent: 11 August 2006 10:41
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Opinions needed - Gazette report: Good progress on CILIP's
new
business model

CILIP New Business Model Working Group

 

I was disappointed to find (according to the report in Gazette 11-24
August,
page 3) that in their discussions to identify CILIP's core functions
there
appears to have been little or no consideration of possibilities, but
only
an agreement on the status quo - Regulate the LIS profession; Support
LIS
professional development; Provide advocacy.

 

Shouldn't such an important working group, working in a time of crisis
for
CILIP, have thought 'outside the box' - considered new and exciting
functions, which could both attract and retain members? I do not think
members want a reaffirmation of more of the same in the new business
model -
the Terms of Reference make it clear that the model should generate
income,
not allow CILIP to carry on as it is.

 

If you agree with this statement, please make it known via this list or
by
emailing CILIP ([log in to unmask]) directly "For attention of the New
Business Model Working Group"

 

Chris Armstrong
National Councillor (CILIP)
e. [log in to unmask] 
Information Automation Limited
e. [log in to unmask] 

 



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