With a tendency to agree, but I am using ethnically cleansing/mass
extermination/genocide to mean the same thing, which I tend to think was
not as widespread as linguists may suggest.
The point is superior breeding success can amount to the same thing as
population replacement. However, whether it can be achieved in the
timeframe really depends on the population numbers. Upwards of 2 million
people in Britain and it is just too many people to replace. A figure like
1.2 million is is really practical.
I suppose the Romans could have helped out with a bit of selective
replacement of the native Brits as well.
I make a few notes (best guesswork on evidence I have found) that I noted:
Speculation: my estimate of the number of Saxons to settle in Sussex in
the first wave of settlements to vary between 250 and 4000 people of all
ages, or about 0.25% to 5% of the the native Romano-British and Welsh
population. Their numbers may have been supplemented by later immigration.
Later my figure was revised to 20% in Sussex, but 10% for the whole of
Britain. (This was possible because I downgraded by population estimate
for Sussex to 20,000.)
Some people may think this subject/debate/miscellaneous opinions without
foundation has gone on too long. But essentially it is
1) where we come from
2) why we speak English
and therefore very important if you care for your evolutionary heritage
(not that you can do anything about it).
The questions I thought important were;
1) how many people living in Britain in the 5th century, or your shire?
2) How many immigrants?
Then make the computer game with various different scenerios, and what
tactics the Gamnesmaster can come up with. Would Ælle (see 477 AS
Chronicle) have send a dispatch of troops up to wipe out a few uppity
Romano/Brits in Anderitum (495) who were getting uppity. Would he have got
the Welsh to help him?
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:13:19 +0100, John Briggs <[log in to unmask]>
>Andy Horton wrote:
>> 1) The linguists who say that the widespread loss of the Celtic
>> languages and very few loan words into English can only be examined
>> by mass extermination of the local population by a mass immigration
>No - the linguistic evidence does not require mass migration, only that
>there is a total population replacement. The incomers, whether in large or
>small numbers, had no contact with the local population (not even keeping
>them as slaves) and 'ethnically cleansed' them.