Number 3 in your list is interesting. Can you explain how the PAS can
increase opportunities for public involvement in archaeology for me and
others. You see as I see it research digs which is wher volunteers used to
be able to get involvbed have virtually died, even those run by universities
now won't take on volunteers from outside the university themselves due to
the cost of insurance. Professional bodies can't take on volunteers for the
same reason so how the hell can PAS increase any opportunity for this.
I wonder how many local groups actualluy excavate these days and I also
wonder how many community digs there are in the country each year.
The PAS spend far more money pussy footing up to the detecting community
than the archaeological community. OK they need educating but so do many of
the general public. Lets see PAS get out and show these people who are
digging their gardens how to record etc.
Ok on to number 1 now. How can the PAS advance knowledge of our past
through unstratified finds? This is not possible. All that we can do with
these finds is date them and maybe say oh yes they are made of this and
that. It really doesn't add anything especially where coins are concerned
as John will tell you.
Number 2 sounds good so surely they should be going out to groups and saying
" Hey dont just dig a hole to recover the metal object ya detector picked
up, consider opening a wider hole and recording each layer until you get to
the object then record it in place etc before lifting it. They should then
maybe suggest the detectorist or the member of teh public get in touch with
a conservator to protect the piece now it as been lifted out of its matrix.
Number 4 is what they should be doing and there not speaking out against
other recording sites etc and the way these other recording sites have
fought against the recent document that was agreed between all bodies shows
they are not doing this also.
As for number 5 why do the PAS have to do that? Surely they only need to
look at posts on Britacrh where the answers are already posted on this
Now as you suggested to Nigel maybe look at the whole picture, annalyse it
and then critically review it before accepting mission statements off the
top of the head.
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Subject: Re: [BRITARCH] PAS strays from its remit ( was Bill Wyman's light
> Of course what Nigel failed to mention (and I am sure it was an
> unfortunate oversight) was that the PAS explorers section to which he
> refers .. says this
> "The sites where early Anglo-Saxons lived have been discovered not only by
> excavation, but also by looking carefully on the surface. Archaeologists
> can identify these sites by putting together clues from field-walking,
> metal-detecting and geophysical survey...."
> and shows how different techniques find different things and then how
> together they build a fuller picture... ONE of the ways is detecting the
> other is field walking ... sounds perfectly logical and sensible to
> me.... in fact I will be doing exactly that methedology myself in
> PAS aims are --- for your information
> 1.. To advance knowledge of the history and archaeology of England and
> Wales by systematically recording archaeological objects found by the
> 2.. To raise awareness among the public of the educational value of
> archaeological finds in their context and facilitate research in them.
> 3.. To increase opportunities for active public involvement in
> archaeology and strengthen links between metal-detector users and
> 4.. To encourage all those who find archaeological objects to make them
> available for recording and to promote best practice by finders.
> 5.. To define the nature and scope of a scheme for recording portable
> antiquities in the longer term, to access the likely costs and to identify
> resources to enable it to be put into practice.
> So try and look at the whole picture Nigel, and let the PAS get on with
> what they are good at... I will be supporting them directly very soon.
> and I will also be supporting detectorists and I will also be supporting
> amatuer archaeologists - as I love to bang on ... Positive steps are
> what I like to see...
> You have perhaps to remove the blinkers that seem to tunnel your
> vision...and seem to ensure you get all worked up about nothing really.
> David Connolly
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