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Re: Serenissima list

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Diana Wright <[log in to unmask]>

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medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture <[log in to unmask]>

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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture

Jon Cannon wrote:

>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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>I wonder if you could post a link or information on how to briefly join
>this list: my limited Google skills have not revealed it. I've recently
>come back from Venice wanting to know more about a side chapel in San
>Michaeli in Isola: perhaps a little specific for this list, but ideal
>for yours? 
>
>Jon
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Delighted.

Serenissima
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/serenissima/
http://nauplion.net/VenicePiriReis.htm

DW


>-----Original Message-----
>From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious
>culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Diana
>Wright
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [M-R] Santa Maria delle Vergini inscription
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>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>culture
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>You should join my Serenissima list & post this question there.
>
>DW
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>Chris Laning wrote:
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>>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
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>culture
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>>My colleague Caitlin, who's not on this list, is trying to decipher an
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>>inscription from a photograph, but she isn't even sure whether it's 
>>Italian or Latin, to start with. Since it seems to be a fairly 
>>well-known landmark, I thought I'd ask here if anyone knows more about
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>>it. (Better photos would certainly help.)
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>>Caitlin writes:
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>>>I'm trying to guess at A/ what language and B/how it would have been
>>>spelled for the following quote:
>>>
>>>"hope and love keeps us in this pleasant prison"
>>>
>>>This quote is from the arch of Santa Maria delle Vergini Convent in
>>>Venice, dated May 2, 1557. The convent was demolished, but the arch
>>>was saved then attached to the Arsenal. I have a photo of it, but not
>>>enlarged enough to see the actual inscription. I can't locate a
>>>      
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>larger
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>>>photo of this detail in the arch, unfortunately.
>>>
>>>I did a translation in Italian and again in Latin (Intertran has
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>Latin
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>>>now! yay!) and the few bits of words I could make out makes me think
>>>it is Latin - which is logical for the time. What I have so far is:
>>>
>>>spes quod diligo servo nos huic voluptarius carcer
>>>
>>>I could pick out "carcer" without trouble from the photo, but the
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>rest
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>>>is hard to make out. It looks like there could have been a shorter
>>>word at the beginning rather than what I have. "Voluptarius" appears
>>>to be altogether too long, but the discolouration and lack of detail
>>>in the photo makes it impossible to tell.
>>>
>>>In Italian:
>>>sperare e amore ricordo ci in questo piacevole prigione
>>>
>>>None of these words look as if they should fit.
>>>
>>>Before I pronounce this Latin text, I'd like to make certain the
>>>translator did its job correctly, and hopefully someone can make
>>>any needed corrections in this as well, or decipher the possibly
>>>shortened word at the beginning. There are four lines of text, the
>>>last one is the name of the convent:
>>>
>>>S-M-DELe VERzINE
>>>
>>>The lower case letters I am not completely certain about.
>>>The four lines also include the date mentioned above.
>>>Can anyone help me out with this?
>>>      
>>>
>>I'll be happy to pass on any suggestions. (I don't have her photo; 
>>it's not online.)
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