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From: Ann Rudinow Sætnan
Sent: Tue 5/2/2006 6:34 PM
To: Ian Welton
Subject: RE: online vigilantes....
One interesting thing about the sexual harrassment ones is the question of who's invading whose privacy, who's watching whom in unacceptable ways. That becomes a bit more philosophically challenging than the speed trap case, although that one too has some in-built ethical contradictions. Remember -- both speeding and sexual harrassment are very real problems with serious consequences. Harrassment does, sometimes, end in murder.
Another point of difference between the two cases: speed cams usually have a clear cut-off point, a speed below which you will not be recorded, whereas the sexual harrassment text indicates a problematic flexibility -- what's just fun for one may be a mild irritation for the next and totally unacceptable for the third, and whoever finds something unacceptable gets to post it and "out" the harrasser.
Personally, I'd prefer calling the police in cases of sexual harrassment, a lesson learned after _not_ calling them when I was kidnapped and attempted raped back in college. Escaping on my own was one thing, but I should have gone to the police as part of dealing with the aftermath.
Well, both cases are worth thinking about, but I have to do other work now. I'll watch for others' thoughts.
Ann R. Saetnan
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From: Research and teaching on surveillance on behalf of Ian Welton
Sent: Tue 5/2/2006 5:57 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: online vigilantes....
A link circulated by CPSR contains a story along similar lines.
http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/news/editorial/14454513.htm
CCTV and radar speed traps can sometimes be used in comparable ways. There
are many analogous similarities.
Ian W
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> this definitely falls under "people watching
> people"... the consequences of this are probably
> enourmous, if yet to be seen... as a surveillance
> issue this is highly interesting... and provides
> a lot of material for discussion on data
> protection, privacy rights, and social sorting...
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> "Mobile vigilantes snap sex pests in action... "
> Observer from 30th April 2006
> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1764585,00.html
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> best nilz
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