Keith, David, Nick et al,
Keith, talk is futile is it ?
The phrase being picked-up on here is
"the capacity to realize what is of value in life"?
That's "realize" as in "make real".
Like David, the Pirsigian connection rings with me every time I hear
"value" and I've been making the same links with Wisdom, ever since
Nick raised the idea with us all.
Talk (exclusive talk and nothing else) is worse than frustration,
granted, but change with no talk at all sounds like revolution by
violent force. Talk is one of those necessary key interactions that
are part of the process of "doing something" of value.
(Many of us have remarked that bounding the subject of wisdom within
educational circles will prove limiting, but it's a start.) I think
Nick's aim is to take academia beyond any (valueless) sterile bounds -
to change the meaning of the word "academic".
On 5/21/06, keith milner <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I think all talk of wisdom within the safe and sterile boundaries of
> academic discussion is futile. We've had thousands of years of it and
> it remains confined pretty much within the faculty of observation with
> little impact on human behaviour. The more worthwhile pursuit of
> wisdom is in action, in interaction, in role-play and in experiential
> learning methods. Only by such means may we test our universal and
> archetypal awareness of wisdom.
> Keith Milner
> On 20 May 2006, at 23:17, David M wrote:
> > Hi Nick
> > "the capacity to realize what is of value in life"?
> > This seems a very good starting point to me. It is grounded in what we
> > are able to achieve in practice, but better still it requires that we
> > consider and articulate what is of value to us. I wonder if other
> > members have read Robert Pirsig's novels and are aware of the
> > relevance of his ideas to such an exploration of values and the
> > goal of eudaimonia?
> > I also suspect that Roy Bhaskar's critical realist school of thought
> > may be a useful source of ideas and fellowship. Anyone else aware
> > of Bhaskar?
> > Here's an interview for those who may be interested:
> > http://www.raggedclaws.com/criticalrealism/archive/rbhaskar_rbi.html
> > regards
> > David Morey