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.. but I can see why 'chapel' was a reasonable name for them. St
Stephen's was a palace chapel as well as a college (didn't Edward I
first make it collegiate, and Edward III enhance its endowment?) - so
was our St George's. Just the same could be said indeed for the
Sainte-Chappelle: a well-endowed collegiate community called a 'chapel'
perhaps because palace/castle churches are usually called 'chapels'...
perhaps this tradition helps imply a certain privacy and exclusivity.
After all if Aachen counts as a 'chapel' just about anything can...
On the other hand, I would enjoy joining with you in a concerted
campaign to get the authorities in the Palais de la Justice to rename
their famous church, on the basis that it is inaccurate. The
Sainte-eglise? Sainte-college? I'm sure they'd agree :-)...
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Jon Cannon wrote:
>
> To my mind any group of secular clerics that are organized as a single
> community is a 'college'. The members of this community could be quite
> lowly figures, and its function could vary hugely: Knowles et al list
> hundreds of collegiate churches, only a few of which had titles as
> grand as 'canon' or 'prebendary'. Some were small groupings of clerks
> 'governed' by a single priest, devoted to chantry masses or alms;
> others took all the priests of a large urban parish and put them
> under a single 'umbrella'. The large cathedral sub-colleges of Vicars
> and Chantry Priests were by definition lowlier than canons.
A 'Prebendary' has a prebend :-)
But the point at issue was that both St George's, Windsor and St
Stephen's,
Westminster had canons (colleges founded by Edward III) - so I suggested
that they counted as collegiate churches.
John Briggs
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