We don't do meat turnovers much (a pasty is something like a
turnover, as opposed to a pie), except for the Italian calzone. But
the blessed influx, and I mean it without irony, of caribbeans and
latin americans have brought us the Jamaican meat pattie and a myriad
of variations on the meat or veggie or chicken pastel, sometimes made
with manioc (yuca) dough (a dollar a piece from a street vendor two
blocks from my door), plus tamales of a dozen kinds, wrapped in corn
husk or banana leaf. All of the foregoing richly flavored with lard
and suet, natch. One's arteries are clogged but happy, and the blood
sings as it fights its way through. In some neighborhoods Samosas are
commonplace. In Chinese and Vietnamese areas we get riceballs stuffed
with bits of leftovers and steamed in large tealeaves.
For the curious, I had roast ham with mangu, a cocoction of mashed
boiled plantains and garlic, topped with sauteed red onions. I'd have
to walk to Tierra del Fuego to walk it off.
Mark
At 05:09 PM 3/10/2006, you wrote:
>When Roger and I lived in Somerset, we used to drive over to Cheddar
>Gorge to buy cheese straight from the -- oh hell, what's the word,
>dairy? creamery? place where it was made, anyway, and go in and have
>a look at the process too. Same with Wensleydale up in these parts.
>
>You can buy New Zealand cheddar in the supermarkets, same as you can
>buy Somerset brie, but they have to be labelled as such. But then of
>course you get into the esoteric stuff, like Shropshire Blue Vinny,
>which I don't believe gets made outside of Shropshire. Haven't seen
>Sage Derby for ages either, and I used to love it melted over
>lightly-cooked cabbage.
>
>What about Scotch eggs then? I'd think the criterion must be whether
>they are, like Cornish pasties, something you could find a recipe
>for in an ordinary cookery book. Any similar local or local-sounding
>US or Australian foods, anybody?
>
>joanna
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Upton"
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>Subject: Re: help--translation query
>
>
>There is no such place as the West Country. It was invented by GWR
>
>[But did you know, they do say tes true, that West Country cheddar
>is now a protected EC label but Cornish pasty isn't
>
>Anyway, my beauty, a tourist is an emmet; a grockle is what you find
>at the bottom of your beer glass. Grockle for tourist is Devonian
>
>But both I believe are English
>
>Moryon is the Cornish
>
>L
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joanna Boulter <[log in to unmask]>
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> Date: Friday, March 10, 2006 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: help--translation query
>
>
> Splendid pic of grackle, Mark -- how big a bird is it? I'd got the word
> muddled with grockle, which is the west-country word for a tourist as I'm
> sure Lawrence will confirm.
>
> That Latin name sounds as though they're saying 'Who the hell, who the
> heck'.
>
> I would support Patrick in plumping for 'fluff feathers' or 'fluffed-up'.
>
> joanna
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Weiss" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: help--translation query
>
>
> > Australia must hold the record for noisy birds.
> >
> > I'm more a bird noticer than a bird watcher. Grackles (
> >
> > Quiscalus quiscula--isn't google grand?) gather in hundreds and sound like
> > their name. They also shit a lot on unaware walkers. Rather like starlings
> > for annoyance value. Black with dark purple heads. A good photo at
> > http://spurr.pls.uni.edu/birds/photos/common_grackle_a.jpg, and lo! it's
> > puffed up. Otherwise sleek as a crow.
> >
> > As to birds and poets, this from my childhood, in the mock-hillbilly
> > genre:
> >
> > "Oh a bird laid some turd on the mountain I hear."
> > "That was no bird that was no turd that was me-e."
> >
> > What's "having a lend"?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > At 09:37 AM 3/10/2006, you wrote:
> >>Hi Mark,
> >>
> >>First of all, what's a grackle? I assume you're not having a lend.
> >>
> >>But I would be interested in the correct name for the term as well. There
> >>does seem to be a thing about poets and birds.
> >>
> >>I'm a lazy bird watcher myself and rarely know the correct word for
> >>ornithological things. But I notice them all the same. Tonight, there was
> >>a real racket across the street as I was coming home, ooh, about 7ish.
> >>Most likely parrots of some kind. I couldn't see them but they were,
> >>obviously, apparent.
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Jill
> >>
> >>
> >>On Saturday, March 11, 2006, at 01:06 AM, Mark Weiss wrote:
> >>
> >>>OK, I need some feedback from birdwatchers. In the winter birds puff out
> >>>their feathers fro warmth. Is there/are there a term/terms for this? From
> >>>the scientific to the colloquial.
> >>>
> >>>I realize this question is likely to inspire some general levity, not to
> >>>say tom-foolery (origin?), which I'd appreciate as much as the next
> >>>guy/gal, but I really could use the help on this one.
> >>>
> >>>A tribeof grackles has taken up residence in the park outside my
> >>>window--maybe 25 males. Quiet so far--probably waiting for a critical
> >>>mass to build up. Oh lucky me.
> >>>
> >>>Mark
> >>
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