medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
"Christopher Crockett" wrote
"manor" is like "chateau" (for _castrum_) or villa for _villa_ --the word is
contaminated by more recent associations.
>There must have been many dwellings on these lands, which (the lands) were
not all contiguous,
that's what i don't understand --presumably a single piece of property, but
"mansam in septem loca divisam".
i could understand it if it were a "fief", which consisted of a group of
seperate rights, properties, rents, etc.
but a "mansam in septem loca divisam" doesn't make much sense to me.
>and so 'homestead' does not seem right either, nor proto-village, although
there is some of that about it (only one small part of it ever became a
village).
o.k., i'm stumped.
10th c. Cornwall doesn't seem to have much in common with 11th-12th c.
Chartres.
c
But I think if 'mansa' can be transltaed as 'manor', that agrees with
Christopher's suggestion of 'fief'. A manor was a fief that included lands
and rights/responsibilities, etc. Not all lands in all manors were
contiguous - certainly in the later middle ages when lordships might have
been joined or split. Admittedly, Susan's example is very early but, by my
period, 'manerium' would be the more usual term. It would seem that 'mansa'
is being used for the land/rights/buildings held by one person/being
conveyed in one piece - perhaps something between the earlier villa and
later manor?
Rosemary
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