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Re: How commercial are consultants?

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Birte Brugmann <[log in to unmask]>

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Hi Nick,

Thanks. It seems the way you describe it works well enough in practice 
in regard to SMR enquiries, though I'm not sure I'm entirely happy with 
the theory as such.

As an employee, I charge my employer in the shape of a flat rate (a 
salary) which does not include the costs of my workplace and 
expenses that may arise from the work I do (such as your fee); as a 
consultant I charge a rate which does include the costs for my 
workplace (a dayrate, for example).  As an employee, I would dump 
your invoice on my employer, as a consultant I would have to factor it 
into my turnover. I don't really see a difference in terms of 
"commercial" or "non-commercial" here.

Large organisations can afford to employ specialists but may not have 
the need for them full-time; small ones, and those with irregular 
funding, might love to employ one, but have to buy the cake by the 
slice. Again, I don't think "commercial" or "non-commercial" comes into 
it as such.

I would expect the definition of "commercial" or "non-commercial" to be 
reduced to a single aspect: whom or what the work is for. Charities are 
non-commercial by definition, building companies definitely are 
commercial.

I realise that my original question was adacemic in an SMR 
environment - though maybe not entirely, as occasionally there seem 
to be tensions between SMR officers and consultants.

Best wishes,
Birte



> So working for a Uni you are not charging the uni for your services.
> But when you do a search for a client who pays you, that is
> commercial.
> 
> Another rule of thumb is that commercial inquiries usually relate to
> Development projects (either within or without the planning process).
> 
> So to answer your questions directly
> 
> As a part-time university employee, I do archaeology non-
commercially,
> and as a part-time archaeological consultant, I do the same
> commercially? - Yes
> 
> As a consultant, do I only get charged if I do work for a commercial
> contractor? No, you would get charged if you are doing work for a
> client who pays you, regardless of who it is, could be a developer,
> land agent, other archaeological contractor, builder, architect etc
> 
> Or also if I do work for a trust or a charity? - I would say yes,
> though this is sort of area where we might consider waiving the fee,
> depending on the type of work, etc. However, if they can afford to 
pay
> a consultant, they can almost certainly afford a search fee.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> Nick Boldrini
> Historic Environment Record Officer
> Heritage Section
> Countryside Service
> North Yorkshire County Council
> County Hall
> Northallerton
> DL7 8AH
> Direct Dial (01609) 532331
> 
> Conserving North Yorkshire's heritage - encouraging sustainable 
access
> www.northyorks.gov.uk/archaeology 
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