Good, David, I am glad you have made piece with Geraldine! Though like most
I occasionally indulge in hurtful speech and writing, it's always a breath
of fresh air not to get drawn in on that level.
Does your public library order poetry books?
Stephen
> It's only an argument in an intellectual sense, Stephen, not the seemingly
> personal one that the phrasing 'a seeming perpetual one with Geraldine'
> suggests.
>
> Can't buy the book me duck because I can't afford to buy new books: I live
> on minimum incapacity benefit these days.
>
> Best
>
> dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:22 PM
> Subject: Re: A Berkeley Reading - Geraldine Monk & A Halsey
>
>
>> David -
>>
>> If this is an argument with either me - and my ignorance of your history -
>> or a seeming perpetual one with Geraldine, I think it best that we not
>> dribble in the dark - but that you buy the book, and then respond on a
> more
>> informed level to the real text at hand.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Stephen V
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Her book from West House is Escafeld Hangings (complete with a CD).
>>>> Mary had some big troubles (apparently) with the head of State, as I
>>> suspect
>>>> the majority of England - including no doubt both you and Geraldine -
>>> these
>>>> days with Blair who, nevertheless, holds his subjects to his and George
>>> W's
>>>> suicidal war policies. I suspect there is a bit of ironic metaphoric
>>>> identification going on between M and G. Geraldine's response is to
>>>> embroider syntax and sing as hard as she can thru the vehicle of Mary
> and
>>> a
>>>> bunch of it is wonderfully goofy in an elevated kind of way.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Stephen. I fear the metaphor does not hold.
>>>
>>> Teflon Tony, thank God, is not the British Head of State, nor are we
> +his+
>>> subjects. He is the current +voice+ of power though. Mary's imprisonment
> and
>>> woes were a direct result of the Machiavellian maneouvres of Elizabethan
>>> power politics, which are best not to contemplate at this time of the
>>> morning (it's a little before 6 a.m. here). And, too, that she was a
> female
>>> ruler at the same time as England had one: disaster! in political terms:
> she
>>> could marry an enemy!!! If the English monarch had been male at the time
>>> they'd have married them off faster than you can say Jack Robinson
>>> (actually, nobody seems to say that any more). Also Mary had the
> political
>>> and social savoir-faire of a sheep outside a slaughterhouse.
>>>
>>> But if the metaphor runs to G in Blair's Britannia not being noticed by
>>> Sheffield as Mary was in imprisonment there, well, I can't say it fits.
>>> Ironic, yes, indeed.
>>>
>>>> Geraldine's response is to
>>>> embroider syntax and sing as hard as she can thru the vehicle of Mary
> and
>>> a
>>>> bunch of it is wonderfully goofy in an elevated kind of way.
>>>
>>> I bet she does! She's very good at that.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A Berkeley Reading - Geraldine Monk & A Halsey
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> I gather it was not too glamorous - conditions et al - Ms. Mary in
>>> prison
>>>>> at
>>>>>> the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, Stephen. By 'historical glamour' I meant that of the +name+ Mary
>>> Queen
>>>>> of Scots.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And, I suspect, in terms of Geraldine living in contemporary
>>>>>> Sheffield, not to glamorous either. Put M & G together, etc. & see
> what
>>>>>> happens (as poem) along with Blair as head of State. Yucks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlike some of G's prior or latter work I don't know the MQS stuff. So
>>>>> what's link- Mary of Scots, Geraldine, both a long time in, but not
>>> from,
>>>>> Sheffield, and Blair?
>>>>
>>>> Her book from West House is Escafeld Hangings (complete with a CD).
>>>> Mary had some big troubles (apparently) with the head of State, as I
>>> suspect
>>>> the majority of England - including no doubt both you and Geraldine -
>>> these
>>>> days with Blair who, nevertheless, holds his subjects to his and George
>>> W's
>>>> suicidal war policies. I suspect there is a bit of ironic metaphoric
>>>> identification going on between M and G. Geraldine's response is to
>>>> embroider syntax and sing as hard as she can thru the vehicle of Mary
> and
>>> a
>>>> bunch of it is wonderfully goofy in an elevated kind of way.
>>>>
>>>> I would quote but I am at work, David.
>>>>
>>>> Stephen V
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: A Berkeley Reading - Geraldine Monk & A Halsey
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess of more interest is, apart from historical
>>>>>>> glamour, what is the +significance+ re Sheffield of Mary Queen of
>>> Scots
>>>>>>> having been imprisoned there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I gather it was not too glamorous - conditions et al - Ms. Mary in
>>> prison
>>>>> at
>>>>>> the time. And, I suspect, in terms of Geraldine living in
> contemporary
>>>>>> Sheffield, not to glamorous either. Put M & G together, etc. & see
> what
>>>>>> happens (as poem) along with Blair as head of State. Yucks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Being under Bush I cannot extend my sympathy too far! Yucks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephen V
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