Hello aacorn

It is worth bearing in mind that, as some of the earlier posts have
suggested, there tends to be a wide gap between writings by artists/art
professionals (I agree with Lucy, let's not call it the 'art world'), and
the writings about arts based processes in management or organizations. In
my experience the two communities in general do not seem to overlap much,
perhaps due to the the major differences in approach, references and
political engagement but perhaps this will change.

There are some things to add to Henrik's list:

'Museum Highlights: The Writings of Andrea Fraser' - Alexander Alberro
(Editor)
'Relational Aesthetics'  - Nicolas Bourriaud
'Postproduction' - Nicolas Bourriaud
'The Museum as Arena: Artists on Institutional Critique' - Christian
Kravagna (Editor)
'Free Exchange'  - Pierre Bourdieu, Hans Haacke
'Conceptual Art and the Politics of Publicity'  - Alexander Alberro
' European Cultural Policies 2015 - A Report with Scenarios on the Future of
Public Funding for Contemporary Art in Europe' - Edited by Maria Lind,
Raimund Minichbauer - download here:
http://www.tonehansen.com/news/ECP2015/2015_download.pdf
And of course much of the above refers to writings by Foucault, Theodor
Adorno etc etc

Plus -  you should consider
the work of (and critical writing surrounding) Marcel Broodthaers / Andy
Warhol / Hans Haacke / Andrea Fraser / Bernadette Corporation / Atelier van
Lieshout / N55 / Public Works / Chris Evans (this is an incomplete list, and
could be very large depending on specific interests; the Alexandra Mir book
does have many other contemporary artists featured)

There have also been relevant debates in art magazines and journals, for
example Art Monthly, a UK art magazine, has a long running series of
articles and features about art/law, art/economy, art/politics, art/urban
regeneration / art/globalisation, art / collaboration. Artforum and Frieze
also cover these kinds of issues regularly. The seminar outline of a
forthcoming talk at IASPIS, Stockholm outlines some of the complexity of
these debates: http://www.iaspis.com/calendar/Detail_en.asp?ID=88

Lastly, it might be useful to recall that much artistic work and writing
about this area refers to and critiques museums and art sponsors (especially
that associated with the first generation of artists associated with
'institutional critique'), but that this should, if you follow the logic of
these artists, be seen as having a metaphorical relationship to other
organisations and institutions.

I'm sure I have forgotten some key things; this is a huge area with many
subtleties in terms of approaches and diversifications, and the contemporary
debates have much historical precedent....

All the best

Carey

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> From: Henrik Schrat <[log in to unmask]>
> Reply-To: Henrik Schrat <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:25:00 +0100
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Artists on economy
> 
> Dear Ralph Kerle!
> 
> There is a whole stream of that, but it takes place within the art/art
> critique. This classic problem to trandisciplinary thinking - as dull and
> simple as that sounds - is again bigger than expected.
> 
> Ken Friedman said Beuys lately, in my first short mail I mentioned the
> Artist Placement Group, beeing the first to target the question precisely.
> You could go from there. Or there is the group General Idea which also
> worked theoretically a lot, and an interesting example of the younger past
> might be Atelier von Lishout, the Dutch group. I would also look into art /
> activist directions, RTmark, or Adbusters, there is loads of it. With that
> goes a long stream of theory, beeing 90% involved in left wing, post -
> marxist theory. There are a lot of interesting things, but it gets also very
> quick repetetive mand ideologic. That's a bit the problem: The artist really
> interested in this issue are left or radical left, most of the others don't
> care about it, they care just about art. Core problem. So read Mile Plateau
> (Deleuze/Guattari) and more recently Empire (Hardt/Negri) those are bibles
> of economic thinking in the arts(theory).
> 
> You have all the booklists I think, but concerning artists view, Alexandra
> Mir's 'Corporate Mentality' gives a good overview.
> 
> And of course a bit self - canvasing again: Produkt & Vision, the project I
> mentioned briefly, was - as all my practice in the field - made for that
> reason, to have the art side initiating and configuring the encounter, and
> give the artist position the point of speech back. The whole project I sould
> regard as an art based statement. The reader containes a couple of texts by
> artists, along with theorists from arts and management/organisationa
> studies. You can see them besides each other, and compare the language and
> position of speech. Www.produktundvision.com.
> 
> 
> 
> I am very curious to ask: What of all that did you come across so far, of
> whom from the art field do you know? Just as professional curiosity, to see
> what actually has made it across the border. We could do that direcly, does
> not have to be through Aacorn.
> 
> 
> Best!
> Henrik
> 
> 
> -- 
> Henrik Schrat
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