>The early printers unfortunately did 'solve' the problem by substituting
the
'z' for yogh, they compounded it, hence the confusion over names like
Menzies or Dalziel these 'ere daze<
Should be '+didn't+ solve the problem'.
Gawd, I'm gonna have words with my optician.
Best (!)
Dave
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From: "David Bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: Royal Poems
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From: "Robin Hamilton" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Royal Poems
<<
One of my favourite unintentional historical ironies is the below. It's by
James the Ist (of England, the VIth of Scotland).
It's advice to his SON on how to be a succesful king.
Loe heir my sone a mirrour viue and fair
Quhilk schawis the schadow of a vorthie king
Loe heir a booke, a paterne dois ¸ow bring
Quhilk ¸e sould preass to follow mair and mair ...
SNIP
(James was a truly awful poet)
Best
Dave
>>
Well, it doesn't help if your software screws up and transliterates the yogh
as a comma -- ,ou make the impenetrable even less penetrable if ,ou do this.
The early Scots printers solved this problem by using "z" for the yogh, as
is still instanced in the putative leader of the Liberal Democrats, Sir
Menzies Campbell, pronounced "mingus" (as in Charley the jazzman), thus his
affectionate sobriquet, "Ming".
Incidentally, dave, it's Jimmy the Sixth and One -- he reigned as the sixth
James in Scotland *before* he became the first James to try to civilize the
English.
R. Rodent (deceased)
Well, Rob, it says something about the problems I have with these bi-focals
that I didn't even +notice+ what had happened to the yogh. I think in the
poem in question, if posting in e-mail, simple substitution of 'y' would be
closest. In this particular case.
The early printers unfortunately did 'solve' the problem by substituting the
'z' for yogh, they compounded it, hence the confusion over names like
Menzies or Dalziel these 'ere daze.
(Sixt, Furst; Furst; Sixt: pish!)
Best
Dave
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From: "Patrick Mc Manus" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: Royal Poems
> Being a simple
> very elderly person
> I never can understand
> How in a demoracy
> We can get royalty
>
> P:-))
> Democracy??
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