yes, unfair *and* rude. It seems to me that if Marcus wants to do what
he's doing he should blog his content. It's out of place as part of an
email conversation of the nature we're engaged in.
Roger
On 1/13/06, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I think that's very unfair on Joanna, Marcus.
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcus Bales" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Money and poetry
>
>
> > On 13 Jan 2006 at 12:18, Joanna Boulter wrote:
> > > Now I didn't say a thing about making publication dependent on
> > > subscription, which is something I am of course dead against. I merely
> > > find it rather odd that people can write poetry and submit it to
> > > magazines, in full expectation of getting it published, without having
> > > sufficient interest in poetry publication to want to subscribe.
> >
> > What seems so odd to me in these repetitions of the familiar old things
> > in this discussion is the way that the poetry editors/magazines want to
> > have it both ways. They want credit for the noble endeavor of working
> > for free in a gift economy, but they also want money to pay for labor and
> > materials. The conflict between these two wants means that it can seem
> > as if those editors who charge money for subscriptions and ads cannot
> > be very serious about participating in a gift economy. It's really hard to
> > see how any of those who charge money can deny that they are in a
> > money economy relation to their work. So the question becomes, for me,
> > why those editors don't spend a good deal more time selling
> > subscriptions and ads in order to support their endeavors -- or hiring
> > people on commisison who will sell for them. It's not as if the model of
> > how to run a magazine for money is absent. Don't the people who write
> > poems buy cars and plants and pictures and vacations and home
> > furnishings? Has anyone ever tried to take the academic demographic
> > to businesses, and point out that the people who write poetry own
> > homes and work in offices and drive cars and all the other things that
> > other consumers do?
> >
> > Marcus
>
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