I have offered the names of experts in various Japanese verse. From your responses, there is obviously no interest (on your part) in the term, "haiku mind", but your strange insistence - to argue a personal, generalized and historical concept of prejudice. After all, you may be the one in a "dream world" as the keeper of such propaganda. Your implication, the USA is my homeland, thus, whatever its government does and has done, would be a reflection on me, is obscure and prejudice. > My post did not say 'anti-american' it was 'anti-americans'. I wrote that> with a purpose as I am very well aware of the loadedness the phrase> 'anti-american' can bear. Now, without being nasty, I do suspect you are> living in a dreamworld, one in which the Japanese aren't pissed off with the> USA for dropping two atomic bombs on them, remember, yours is the only> nation to have done that to anyone, I know, all to well, about my own> nation's guilt, the only thing I can say in self-defence was that neither I> nor my antecedents took any part in it, but the myth, and the accompanying> sentimentality, of American (which reads USA) innocence is more than I can> bear.> > Best> > Dave> > > ----- Original Message -----> From: "deborah russell" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 11:21 PM> Subject: Re: Happy New Year!> > > Since your post indicated "anti - american", I gave "american" names. If you> wish Japanese references, try : Syuichi Sakane, Tokyo; Masahisa Fukuda,> Kawasaki, Kanagawa-Ken; or, Takashi Nonin,Matsuyama-shi, Ehime-ken.> >> Deb, I do know a little bit about Japanese poetry, and the haiku/hokku>> tradition. I know what a senryu is too. I certainly don't claim to know>> everything about, but I wouldn't claim the same about the sonnet either, I>> do notice that the experts you refer me to sound distinctly un-Japanese.> >> God Bless Colonialism, Wherever Its Flag Shall Shine.> > Best> > Dave> >>> ----- Original Message -----> From: "deborah russell" > To: > Sent:> Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:23 PM> Subject: Re: Happy New Year!> > > In> Japan, it is a term of appreciation and respect for haijins and haiku>> poets. If you do not understand, I suggest you might take the opportunity> to> write someone with more expertise, such as Bruce Ross or James Hackett,> I am> sure they will explain, in greater detail, for your particular> satisfaction.> (If, and I apologize, this has not been sated through this> response.)> >> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 22:13:36 +0000> From:> [log in to unmask]>> Subject: Re: Happy New Year!> To:> [log in to unmask]> > Well Debs I'd> guess that Issa's idea of> Americans was on the line of the> Admiral's ships> in Tokyo bay.> > I'd love> to know what a 'haiku mind' is: possibly brain> damage?> > Being Nasty With> A Care For The Truth> > Best> > Dave> > > -----> Original Message ----->> From: "deborah russell" > To: > Sent: Sunday,> January 01, 2006 10:06 PM>> Subject: Re: Happy New Year!> > > Questions:> would that include native> north and south americans? and should> his "anti> americans" effect the> sincere appreciation> of his haiku mind?> > The> sentimentalisation of Issa> is interesting: he was> also a fanatic> Japanese> nationalist and very, very> anti-Americans.> > Best>>> Dave> > > -----> Original Message -----> From:> "deborah russell" > To: >> Sent: Sunday,> January 01, 2006 9:39 PM> Subject:> Re: Happy New Year!> > >> gotta love that> Issa... thanks for the "fix"...>>>> New Year's Day-->> everything is in> blossom!> I feel about> average.>>> --Issa> > > Hal, bearing> greetings and> good wishes> > Halvard> Johnson>> ================>> [log in to unmask]>> [log in to unmask]>>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard>> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com>>>>> http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com====
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