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Subject:

Minutes of the 239th GridPP PMB meeting

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Tony Doyle <[log in to unmask]>

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Tony Doyle <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:49:24 +0000

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Dear All,

     Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php?latest

as well as being listed with other minutes at:

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php

Cheers, Tony
________________________________________________________________________
Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader            Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 478, Kelvin Building                        Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy           EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow             Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
G12 8QQ, UK                                      Video - IP: 194.36.1.33
________________________________________________________________________



GridPP PMB Minutes 239 - 11th December 2006 =========================================== Present: Sarah Pearce, Roger Jones, Stephen Burke, David Britton, David Kelsey, Robin Middleton, John Gordon, Peter Clarke, Dave Newbold, Glenn Patrick, Andrew Sansum, Suzanne Scott (Minutes) Apologies: Tony Doyle, Steve Lloyd, Tony Cass, Jeremy Coles 1. Tier-1 Status Review ======================== AS provided the following report: 1) CPU delivery: Our load test is underway (7 days) with no major issues found. This equipment is on track to be in production 1st week in January. 2) Disk Servers (delivery 1). Supplier had difficulty developing a process for updating the drive firmware planned for last week. However this is now expected to be carried out Tuesday/Wednesday after which we expect their load test to commence. Provided all goes according to plan this will lead to this equipment being available before Friday 19th January. However this does involve our load tests running over the Christmas period where there is some risk of disruption. 3) Disk servers (delivery 2). Supplier have now updated the drive firmware on these servers but have not yet arranged a delivery date with us. We expect delivery will be late this week or early next week after which they must run their 7 day load test followed by our 28 day load test. This equipment is on track to reach production at the start of February. 4) Servers. Problems with the supplier configuration recommendations have been resolved. Load testing looks very encouraging. The worst 7 servers have been under load test for 4 days with no drive ejection (eject rates are variable but we would have expected several by now - prior to the updates). We expect to start load testing most of the remaining servers by Tuesday. 9 PPD disk servers have been in operation with the new drive firmware for 7 days with no drive ejects - however only one has been under high load - the others are either CASTOR or dCache production. We believe that by the 15th December we will be in a position to say if the problem has been resolved - we are reasonably hopeful that it has been. We are planning on deploying these servers into production W/B 2nd January. The PMB noted that by next Monday's meeting a clearer picture of status will have emerged. STANDING ITEMS ============== SI-1 News Items and Meeting Dates ---------------------------------- SP reported two news items last week: DN as User Board Chair and the gLite Brokering Meeting. The meeting had not been too productive, but developments were expected. Alex has been in touch with SL regarding financial modelling, which is in early discussions. This week SB sent a draft text on the new version of the GLUE schema. SP will try to make it a news item for Science Grid This Week. Any ideas for news items from the PMB are welcome before Christmas. Neasan O'Neill has put together new images on the GridPP website from the Collaboration Meeting and from PPARC. More images are welcome. These are for Press use etc. JG noted that he could send some Tier-1 photos but would need to find out about copyright status. SI-2 Production Manager's Report --------------------------------- It was noted that JC was on holiday. SI-3 LCG Management Board Report --------------------------------- JG reported that last week's discussion had involved Tier-1 milestones for 2007, taking experiment requirements into account. The task of distilling the experiment requirements into T-1 deliverables was delegated to the LCG Experiment Co-ordination Meeting which normally meets weekly to discuss short-term requirements but will discuss the long-term situation also. The GDB also met last week. The most interesting discussion was regarding the running of pilot jobs which run payloads from multiple users and issues relating to trust and security. No strong consensus had been reached but proposals were being circulated within the GDB. SI-4 Documentation Officer's Report ------------------------------------ SB reported that he was working on updates to the User Guide, including proofreading and a revision to the GLUE schema appendix. The other authors are also updating their text, with a view to producing a new version before the end of the year. REVIEW OF ACTIONS ================= 234.1 PC was continuing to inquire on the use of Grid papers in the RAE. Ongoing. 235.1 Information had now been received from CMS. RJ was still awaiting BaBar information which he will forward on. 236.3 Information regarding funding for a CMS Grid workshop at Bristol in January '07 was ongoing. 236.4 DN to summarise and circulate the CMS model as a basis for discussion. Ongoing. 236.5 RJ will summarise and circulate the ATLAS model as a basis for discussion. Ongoing. 236.6 GP will summarise and circulate the LHCb model as a basis for discussion. Ongoing. 237.1 TD, in conjunction with AS and JG, will define the Tier-1 manager role and add to the PMB page. Ongoing. 237.2 RM, DB and Dave Colling had begun to rationalise workload management deliverables, but this requires discussion with EGEE staff to get answers to some outstanding questions. Item closed, but deliverables not yet defined. 237.3 SL had now circulated a document showing the breakdown by experiment for the Tier-2 resources for 2007. Item closed, but GP needs to do some work on this. 237.4 TD and SL (with input from DB) still to write a 1 page proposal for a site readiness review in March/April 2007. Ongoing. 237.5 There was some discussion regarding the block booking of rooms in the hostel for the WLCG collaboration workshop. It was noted that the hostel require TC to call them after 4pm, which he has been unable to do. It was noted that something needs done about this quickly, it was suggested to hand-over the task to Mary Elizabeth. JG sent TC an email to this effect during the meeting. The PMB noted that if a block booking is not made, it will result in steep hotel bills. [After the meeting TC confirmed that a block booking has been made. SB is now verifying that the bookings are still required.] 237.6 SB had now provided a first draft news item on the GLUE schema revision. Item closed. 238.1 DB had now circulated an email summary to the PMB of the GridPP2+ outcome. Item closed. 238.2 JC to organise a 'forward-look' at the connectivity of the Tier-2 sites - it was noted that JC was still on holiday. Ongoing. 238.3 PC had now drafted a GridPP response statement to connection requests but this was not yet circulated. Item closed. AOCB ==== GP noted that he had contacted RM regarding costs for the LHCb software course in January. These had increased from the original estimate due to higher accommodation costs being observed now that participants are actually registering. The PMB agreed the increased cost. ACTIONS AS AT 11.12.06 ====================== 234.1 PC to inquire on the use of Grid papers in the RAE. 235.1 RJ to chase information from CMS and BaBar and forward to DB for the Quarterly Reports. 236.3 DN to circulate further information to the PMB regarding funding for a CMS Grid workshop at Bristol in January '07. 236.4 DN to summarise and circulate the CMS model as a basis for discussion. 236.5 RJ to summarise and circulate the ATLAS model as a basis for discussion. 236.6 GP to summarise and circulate the LHCb model as a basis for discussion. 237.1 TD, in conjunction with AS and JG, will define the Tier-1 manager role and add to the PMB page. 237.4 TD and SL (with input from DB) to write a 1 page proposal for a site readiness review in March/April 2007. 237.5 TC/Mary Elizabeth to block book rooms in the hostel, for the WLCG collaboration workshop. 238.2 JC to organise a 'forward-look' at the connectivity of the Tier-2 sites. 239.1 PC will speak with Robin Tasker regarding networking. The next PMB will take place on Monday 18th December. The meeting closed at 1.40 pm.

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