JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for PSCI-COM Archives


PSCI-COM Archives

PSCI-COM Archives


PSCI-COM@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

PSCI-COM Home

PSCI-COM Home

PSCI-COM  2006

PSCI-COM 2006

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: Does New Scientist help scientists?

From:

Hugh Aldersey-Williams <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

psci-com: on public engagement with science

Date:

Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:34:08 +0000

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (148 lines)

Further to this, I think it's important to note the trickle-down 
effect (legacy?) NS has had in the wider press. Many broadsheet and 
other science correspondents (Steve Connor, Pallab Ghosh, Charles 
Arthur et al) cut their teeth at the magazine, and for better or 
worse the stylistic idiom they picked up there colours the way we all 
read science in Britain.

Hugh

>Hear hear!
>
>I'm pleased somebody has spoken up for New Scientist. I personally think is
>an excellent publication but even if I didn't rate it at all somebody needed
>to put the grumpy comments we've been getting into perspective. The
>responses so far seem to be addressing features rather than reporting and
>comment sections. It may be that the features are the least 'useful' to
>scientists qua scientists, but it would be a mistake to judge the utility of
>the whole magazine by just one type of article. A large chunk of the
>high-quality science reporting and comment (as distinct from features) we've
>come to rely upon is accounted for by New Scientist. Scientists should value
>New Scientist simply because it helps to keep reporting standards high. Who
>else could you rely upon to place your field in its wider context?
>
>Adam
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: psci-com: on public engagement with science
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Murphy Glenn
>Sent: 23 November 2006 13:13
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Does New Scientist help scientists?
>
>The pretext for this question was "does NS help scientists?"
>
>Most of the answers so far seem to have been to the question "does NS
>give you watertight, peer-reviewed, up-to-date information on work being
>done in your field, leading you to new avenues of inquiry?"
>
>I would argue that this is not the purpose of a generalist publication
>like NS. And I would also argue that it does help scientists, by
>providing a wider context for our work.
>
>  True, NS might not tell you anything new about your own field - but why
>would you expect it to?  The very nature of science determines that
>fields of study are divided and sub-divided until each individual ends
>up working on a very narrow, specific question or area of research. Once
>there, you become an authority on that area, and the longer you work on
>it, the more of an authority you become. Possibly THE authority,
>depending on how narrow the field is. (It's much easier to become the
>world authority on the breeding behaviour of one species of abyssal
>trench fish, for example, than it is to become the world authority on
>marine ecosystem evolution, worldwide.)
>
>Hence, it's easy to scoff at a NS article (about your, specific
>sub-field) as being "old news" or "outdated" if all you ever do is study
>that field and its developments. But unless you're so arrogant as to
>presume that you know everything about every field of science (and if
>so, please ignore my humble musings, as you are clearly a remarkable
>polymath the likes of which I could not even hope to understand)...then
>there is always something new to learn about other people's work (and
>possibly even your own), provided you're open to it.
>
>The way I see it, generalist publications like New Scientist have the
>near-impossible task of trying to keep pace with rapid, worldwide
>developments in an almost infinite range of infinitely-subdivided
>fields...and then writing something new and interesting about them that
>SOMEBODY OUTSIDE THE FIELD might want to read. I'm not talking about
>someone outside the field of science - just outside the scope of the
>article (be it marine ecosystems, abyssal trench fish, or whatever). We
>are all laymen outside of our own fields of knowledge. Anyone that tells
>you different is deluded or selling something.
>
>Personally, I've always found NS to be extremely engaging and
>interesting, and I feel that it helps by placing a huge variety of
>contemporary research in context. In doing so, it can also introduce us
>to associations between fields, and to the wider environmental,
>socioeconomic and political issues involved - making us think about how
>we feel about them. If you'd rather avoid dallying with these tedious
>trifles, then a good field-specific journal should provide a welcome and
>preferable haven.
>
>Regards
>
>G
>
>
>
>
>This e-mail and attachments are intended for the named addressee only and
>are confidential. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify
>the sender immediately, delete the message from your computer system and
>destroy any copies. Any views expressed in this message are those of the
>individual sender and may not reflect the views of the National Museum of
>Science & Industry. This email has been scanned for all viruses by the
>MessageLabs Email Security System.
>
>**********************************************************************
>1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example,
>send an email to [log in to unmask] with the following message:
>set psci-com nomail
>2. To resume email from the list, send the following message:
>set psci-com mail
>3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the
>message:
>leave psci-com
>4. Further information about the psci-com discussion list, including list
>archive,
>can be found at the list web site:
>http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/psci-com.html
>5. The psci-com gateway to internet resources on science communication and
>science
>and society can be found at http://psci-com.ac.uk
>**********************************************************************
>
>**********************************************************************
>1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example,
>send an email to [log in to unmask] with the following message:
>set psci-com nomail
>2. To resume email from the list, send the following message:
>set psci-com mail
>3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with 
>the message:
>leave psci-com
>4. Further information about the psci-com discussion list, including 
>list archive,
>can be found at the list web site: 
>http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/psci-com.html
>5. The psci-com gateway to internet resources on science 
>communication and science
>and society can be found at http://psci-com.ac.uk
>**********************************************************************

**********************************************************************
1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example,
send an email to [log in to unmask] with the following message:
set psci-com nomail
2. To resume email from the list, send the following message:
set psci-com mail
3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message:
leave psci-com
4. Further information about the psci-com discussion list, including list archive,
can be found at the list web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/psci-com.html
5. The psci-com gateway to internet resources on science communication and science
and society can be found at http://psci-com.ac.uk
**********************************************************************

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager