If I have come across as bullying I apologise: I know I do it from time to
time but it is unintentional.
However, I have noticed a few times on this forum that there are attempts at
censorship and control.
If there are rules here with which I am unfamiliar, would someone enlighten
me.
Other people have recently made comments on construction and syntax so why
cannot I?
Even if I took your undersanding comment out of context, may I not comment
on it? In my opinion I don't believe you did take it out of context because
you said ie and not eg if I remember correctly. If I am wrong, I apologise.
Drivers licence in context is fine, but that's not how you used it: again,
forgive me if my memory is wrong.
I know it is not the place for it; but I have said recently here that I
believe that every teacher is a teacher of the medium in which/she operates.
To that end I am part of the protect our English movement and whilst I
shouldn't be allowed to rant and rave here since it's not appropriate I
think corrections don't hurt from time to time. The Oxford comma is
something that is being grossly abused these days and I think it has become
such a part of our lives now that very few people realise that a comma
before the word and is very, very rarely justified.
Duncan
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From: Mike Reddy [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 08 June 2006 09:19
Subject: Re: Pedantry in context
Can I agree with Jon's (note that I do know what an apostrophe is) opinion
on plagiarism being something that is independent of a conscious desire.
Breaking the law (to use a non-driving analogy) is rooted in ignorance
making no defence. It is what you do afterwards to punish or to advise that
is determined by wilfulness or misunderstanding in the cause.
Can I ask Duncan to please refrain from correcting grammar in such a
bullying fashion, if it causes anyone concern to post as it did for Derek.
It isn't big or clever, and is a mile away from Jon's (hah!) point about
formatting in Peter's (sic) piece. For your information, 'drivers licence is
perfectly acceptable when used in an objective sense, rather than referring
to the licence of a driver. Here is an example " the drivers licence will be
endorsed " from the DVLA web site
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/drivers/endorsem.htm
We could carry on point scoring, as I could refer you back to the nine times
that "'s" was used correctly and you could probably find other errors in my
text - that way flames lie - but this is not a grammar mailing list. It's
(!) about plagiarism...
Also, the issue of 'understanding' was taken out of context, given that I
also referred to synthesis and analysis, and (to use an Oxford comma) more
importantly to making and doing. The original 'cut and paste' of cutting out
pictures and articles and pasting them onto a huge card is one such
wonderful way that students can creatively use materials in such a way that
they get something more out of the activity than a mere essay; we use them
as both formative and summative assessments. It is also tremendous fun to
hand out the glue sticks, as after initial concern the students really get
into it. Making and doing requires ownership and eliminates plagiarism as an
option. I would be interested in similar activities that colleagues could
share.
Mike
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