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Subject:

Re: Use of Turnitin at UK institutions?

From:

"Raeburn, Scott" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Plagiarism <[log in to unmask]>, Raeburn, Scott

Date:

Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:43:52 -0000

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Patricia

We have been using Turnitin for ~9mths here in the School of Computing.
Other Schools in Napier are using it as well. As to your questions:

1) a) Some staff are concerned about the use by students - "some
students use it to make the colour go away"** - but generally even that
is seen as having an educative dimension. "To make the colour go away"
requires them to think about the content of their answers and their form
of expression.

b) I allow students full access; submit, view OR, re-submit (they also
learn to submit early as Turnitin imposes a 24-hr delay on resubmission
ORs). It has generally been accepted by the students and I've had very
positive comments by a few.

2) Sorry, nobody here has used at the newer tools (as far as I know) -
getting the basics accepted will be hard enough.

Cheers

Scott

** unpublished quote by colleague, Feb 2006.


-----Original Message-----
From: Plagiarism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Patricia Spence
Sent: 01 March 2006 17:10
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Use of Turnitin at UK institutions?

Hi All

We always ask students to submit their own work - at least this way they
should have some (if limited) knowledge of why Turnitin is being used. I
have included a short explanation in the instructions they receive.
Related to this point, is anyone out there providing training for
students? I have been asked to do this recently due to the number of
queries and problems staff had been receiving. We're not really
resourced to do this so I'm not sure quite how we're going to handle
this as use of Turnitin increases (as it has been). I don't really think
it should be necessary.

Re staff - I appear too, though not quite magically! Although staff can
get hold of the documentation for Turnitin, they can't register to use
it themselves -  I have to do that for them. When they request this I
always suggest that I meet with them for half an hour to show how the
software works - this gives me the opportunity to suggest alternatives
to just using it purely for detection. It also gives me an opportunity
to impress on them that the software needs to be used transparently (I
have lost track of the times I have been asked to give someone access to
Turnitin so that they can submit a piece of work they're suspicious
about).

Alternatively, and more effieicntly, I provide workshops for groups or
Schools. Most staff are using Turnitin purely for detection & deterrence
but some are allowing level 1 & 2 students to see their originality
report (although they can't resubmit afterwards).

I have 2 questions related to this -

Firstly, has anyone else found staff to be concerned that if they allow
students to resubmit it will just encourage them to 'beat the system'?
Secondly, has anyone used the Revision Assignment tool? I haven't
persuaded anyone here to use it yet.

Regards
Patricia


At 12:41 01/03/2006 +0000, you wrote:
>Dear Jill,
>
>Most of our academics use it via the Blackboard building block. If 
>they've not registered to use Submit then it will cause them problems 
>getting the originality reports, also they approach us about setting 
>up. They then contact us, I also try to regularly talk to the team that

>administer the registrations, alternatively, look through the stats on 
>Blackboard. This allows us to flag up people, and then we'll contact 
>them. We haven't automatically registered all staff. As you can see, 
>there is potential for people to slip through and it is not efficient. 
>However, it does mean we can identify a proportion of the people and
start a dialogue.
>
>Cheers
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>--On 01 March 2006 12:10 +0000 Pickard Jill 
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>Andy,
>>I am very interested in the "magical appearance" part of your e-mail. 
>>How does that work? I would love to set something similar up at 
>>Northampton, so that I could reach staff who are beginning to use it 
>>and then encourage them to think of the ways it can be used to develop

>>skills and understanding for the students. any information would be 
>>very gratefully received!
>>regards
>>jill
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>From: Plagiarism on behalf of AJ Ramsden, Learning and Research 
>>Technology
>>Sent: Wed 01/03/2006 11:59
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Use of Turnitin at UK institutions?
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>At Bristol we've adopted an approach that allows the individual 
>>academic, programme or Dept/School to use the Turnitin system as they 
>>wish inline with their own requirements / culture. So we have people 
>>using it for all three.
>>
>>In the initial phase, academics need to register, we then magically 
>>appear to discuss why and how they plan to use it. It's at this face 
>>to face meeting that we can start to discuss the alternatives and 
>>encourage them to think about the balance between using the software 
>>and better information for students. Again, we'll help with the 
>>creation of a localised plagiarism awareness online tutorials for
students.
>>
>>I've encouraged this approach, admittedly it is a little time 
>>intensive and lots of people slip through the net, but it does allow 
>>us to develop networks and disseminate good practice. We can fill in 
>>the gaps later once there are local champions in place.
>>
>>I'd also think that given the wide range of needs / uses it is useful 
>>to see how people do want to use it. For instance, we are being 
>>approached from staff wishing to use it for publications, and students

>>wishing to use as more of a formative learning tool.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>
>>--On 28 February 2006 14:45 +0000 Kimberley Norman 
>><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Dear all,
>>>
>>>It would be helpful to know how Turnitin is being used in practice 
>>>within UK institutions.  At Bournemouth we are currently piloting the

>>>software at present and are looking to see how we might implement the

>>>software throughout the University.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I am interested to know how differently institutions are using the 
>>>software for deterring and detection, e.g. for developmental 
>>>purposes; are students submitting their own work?  Or are staff 
>>>(administrative or
>>>lecturers) loading work for students, for some or all assignments etc

>>>(i.e. random/blanket checks), or whether Turnitin is being used for 
>>>suspected cases only?  I should imagine a combination of all three 
>>>but would be interested in any comments on this subject.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Perhaps some work has already been done in this area?   I'd be happy
to 
>>>collate responses if helpful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Kimberley
>>>
>>>
>>>Kimberley Norman
>>>
>>>Senior Learning Design Adviser
>>>
>>>Learning Design Studio
>>>http://www.bournemouth.ac.uk/lds
>>>Library & Learning Centre, 1st floor
>>>Bournemouth University
>>>[log in to unmask]
>>>Tel:        (01202) 965442
>>>
>>> 
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>>
>>
>>----------------------
>>Andy Ramsden,
>>Learning Technology Adviser,
>>LTSS
>>University of Bristol
>>
>>e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>tel: 0117 928 7152 (direct)
>>skype: andyramsden
>>blog: www.mobile-learning.blog-city.com
>>web: http://www.ltss.bris.ac.uk/
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