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Subject:

Re: E-jnls check in

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Paul Evans <[log in to unmask]>

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An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:28:44 +0100

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The metadata and standards required to automate this work already exist.
I work for the publisher Emerald and we already provide metadata feeds
for each issue, as we publish it, to the major agents. I would think
this feed could be used for electronic check in purposes.

I have also just finished working on the TOCRoSS project which had the
aim of developing a standard for the provision of article metadata that
could be used for Web 2.0 (or Library 2.0) applications. For the project
we produced a feed of article metadata for content published by Emerald
in the previous week and automated the import of this into the library
OPAC (University of Derby for the experiment). We produced two classes
of feeds: one was for all the content we publish and the other was
tailored to include only content that the customer subscribed to. We
envisioned that the second feed could possibly be used for electronic
checking.

Another alternative is to use the ONIX Serial Release Notification which
was designed specifically for this sort of application. Emerald could
fairly easily provide an XML feed based on ONIX SRN for each customer
that only contains information about publishing events for their
holdings. The problem would then be using this feed to check against
what you expect to be receiving and deciding how to handle exceptions.

Paul

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Paul Evans
Head of Web Services
Emerald Group Publishing Limited
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www.emeraldinsight.com
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fax: 01274 785 200
 


-----Original Message-----
From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Barbara Merchant
Sent: 04 October 2006 16:44
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: E-jnls check in

looks like something that needs automating then...any ideas?

Barbara

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Barbara Merchant                 
Information Services Manager
SPRU - Science and Technology Policy Research Freeman Centre, University
of Sussex Brighton BN1 9QE
Phone: 01273 873528             Fax: 01273 685865
Web: http://www.sussex.ac.uk/spru/
SPRU Library catalogue: http://sprulib.central.susx.ac.uk/
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> From:         "J.W.T.Smith" <[log in to unmask]>
> Date:         Wed, 4 Oct 2006 16:05:02 +0100
> Subject: Re: E-jnls check in
> To:           [log in to unmask]
> Reply-To:     An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group

> <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> Colin,
> 
> I remain to be convinced that this work is cost-effective. We have 
> over 28,000 titles (over 24,000 unique) and it would be full-time job 
> to check all of these often enough to find missing titles before the
users do.
> 
> In fact I don't think it would possible - 10,000 users, even if they 
> only averaged 1 minute a day in the e-journal service, equals 6.5 
> staff working 24 hours a day. We have around 1200 users a day using 
> the e-journals service and I suspect they spend more than 10 minutes 
> per visit.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Smith.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, Colin Sinclair wrote:
> 
> > There seems to me no way of escaping the headaches of ejournal 
> > provision. We have invested in better catalogue provision through 
> > data from third-party sources, this has improved coverage on the 
> > catalogue and enhanced the accuracy of e-holdings description. It 
> > has not been a panacea, and mistakes occur with the data and with 
> > inadequate provision from publishers. There is more to be done here 
> > in using the functionality of our LMS (Millennium) and we have plans

> > to update catalogue records and the coverage information in our link

> > resolver simultaneously from a single data source. Ask me again at 
> > Christmas how this is going.
> >
> > I'm reluctant to rely on user complaints as a way of checking for 
> > "missing issues", it is our job to ensure that the catalogue gives 
> > accurate information. To that end, we check lists of journals to 
> > ensure that the what the catalogue says we have access to is, in 
> > fact, what can be accessed. Yes, it is an enormous task, but we find

> > errors often enough to make it one worth doing.
> >
> > Colin.
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > Colin Sinclair
> > Head of Bibliographic Services
> > University of Stirling
> > STIRLING
> > FK9 4LA
> > Tel: 01786 467218
> > Fax: 01786 466866
> > email: [log in to unmask]
> > -------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group 
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of J.W.T.Smith
> > Sent: 04 October 2006 14:43
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: E-jnls check in
> >
> > The idea of 'checking in' makes no sense in an e-world. In a p-world

> > individual copies could go missing and had to be chased but there is

> > no individual copy in the e-world. If an article or issue is not 
> > available to you it is likely it is not available to everyone else 
> > too. It only needs
> >
> > one subscriber to notice it is missing and complain to the publisher

> > for
> >
> > it to be made available to every subscriber.
> >
> > Also your users become your checkers. In a p-world a user can't tell

> > if a copy is missing or just being used by someone else but in an 
> > e-world they can see if an issue or article is missing and complain 
> > to you. With the millions of users out there it would have to ve a 
> > very specialist title if no-one missed it for a week.
> >
> > One could speculate (no flames please) that if no-one missed a title

> > would it matter that it was missing? :-).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John Smith,
> > The Templeman Library,
> > University of Kent, UK.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, Sally Elizabeth Rimmer wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We are increasingly switching over to  e-only versions of journals 
> >> and I wondered how other institutions managed virtual "checking in"

> >> of issues if they did it at all.  It is a costly business to pay 
> >> for e-access and not receive it.  However,  it would be an enormous

> >> task
> > to
> >> check every journal individually.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance
> >>
> >> Sally Rimmer
> >> E-Resources Co-ordinator
> >> Library and Learning Resources
> >> University of Derby
> >> Kedleston Road
> >>
> >
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