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Subject:

Re: What about the Benz Bionic Car?

From:

Sven Johnson <[log in to unmask]>

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Engineers and biologists mechanical design list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:00:22 -0500

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I learned something. Thank you, Julia.

Julia Bush wrote:

> To the best of my knowledge of Gothic architecture, the structure 
> relies on a single principle of the (pinned) arch.
>
> Building out of stone, often not using any mortar to stick it 
> together, the masons were quite concerned about tension developing in 
> any part of the structure (since when stone blocks aren't being 
> compressed together they would just come apart).
>
> Gothic stuff is "simple" compared to Gaudi in that they made 
> everything symmetrical, perhaps not fully understanding why/how the 
> arch works. Gaudi has more of an organic look because he understood 
> that if you have a hanging string (and a string can only sustain 
> tension!) and hang little weights on it anywhere you please, the shape 
> you get turned upside down will be the shape you need to stay in 
> compression if the hanging weights are representative (in same 
> proportions) of the things you want to go on top of your arch (like 
> ends of other arches and all the weights they're carrying). Gaudi made 
> elaborate 3D models, such as:
>
> http://www.hawbaker.org/1/public/spain/Gaudi/290.jpg
>
> turned upside-down, you have the skeleton of one of his works.
>
> Unless you want to see any hierarchy as inspired by trees, there's not 
> much design being drawn from biology there, only results that break 
> symmetry and angularity which is easy to assosiate with biological 
> forms. Very disappointing for those of us who once thought Gaudi was 
> the organic architect.
>
>
> Julia Bush
> University of Bath, UK
> Architecture & Civil Engineering
>
>
> --On 25 January 2006 07:01 -0800 Beto Cruz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> you should be seraching about gothic structures on the
>> net. the medieval people lacked a good mathematical
>> description of architecture design, so they worked
>> they calculus out by means of analogy. every cathedral
>> of that age has a certain humanoid quality to it, a
>> back, ribs, shoulders, that kind of thing.
>>
>> check this out..
>>
>> http://www.iemar.tuwien.ac.at/modul23/Fractals/subpages/55Characteristics 
>>
>> .html
>>
>>
>> --- Karin Schagen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a Dutch journalist making a documentary series
>>> on biomimetics and I'm currently looking into the
>>> Mercedes Benz Bionic car, based on the Boxfish. I
>>> understand there is some discussion about Benz
>>> having based the concept car on misinterpreted
>>> research.
>>>
>>> And I have a second question. I am looking for
>>> architectural structures based on natural
>>> structures. For example, very much is known about
>>> the structural details of Euplectella sea sponge.
>>> Does anyone know of buildings inspired by nature, or
>>> is it simply a parallel development. Sponges and
>>> builders are directed by the same mechanical laws?
>>>
>>> Can anyone help me with this?
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Karin Schagen
>>> VPRO television
>>> Netherlands
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:    Engineers and biologists mechanical design
>>> list on behalf of Julian Vincent
>>> Sent:    ma 23-1-2006 11:23
>>> To:    [log in to unmask]
>>> Cc:   
>>> Subject:    . . . and one I overlooked
>>>
>>> There is a World Congress of Biomechanics in Munich
>>> next July/August.
>>>
>>> There will be a session on Bionics.
>>> The closing date for central abstract submission is
>>> more or less now!
>>>
>>> Let me know if you intend to submit anything and
>>> I'll make sure it gets
>>> through the procedures
>>>
>>> full details are on the Congress webpage
>>> (http://www.wcb2006.org).
>>>
>>> Julian Vincent
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> Julian FV Vincent                tel 01225 386596
>>> Professor of Biomimetics            fax 01225 386928
>>> Centre for Biomimetic and Natural Technologies    mob
>>> 07941 933901
>>> Department of Mechanical Engineering        home 01225
>>> 835076
>>> The University
>>> BATH  BA2  7AY   UK
>>>
>>> http://www.bath.ac.uk/mech-eng/biomimetics
>>>
>>> If it works, it must be out of date --- Stafford
>>> Beer
>>>
>>
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