medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:55 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
> culture
>
> Good day, all, eh?
>
> To demonstrate the durable density of my
> skull, I still cannot read a defense of neo-
> conservatism or, for that matter, of Know-
> Nothingism, Nazism, Peronism, socialism,
> or Soviet Communism into Dennis's post.
>
> What I did read is that dogma does make
> a difference. I, being a dogmatician, think
> that to be a true statement. I shall readily
> admit that the vast majority of people in
> general disagree. That is why I and a large
> number of dogmaticians remain unemployed.
>
> I have argued, do now argue, and will
> continue to argue that one needs to
> understand the dogma of the Roman church
> in the eary 16th century as well as the dogma
> of Luther, of Zwingli, and of Müntzer to
> understand the reformation of the sixteenth
> century and to build a foundation for an
> understanding of today's western Christianity.
sounds interesting to me. and i'd note how much of the "juice" in
much of the dogmatic discourse of the day was apocalyptic (Luther)
and millennial (Muntzer).
>
> In my senile dementia, I take Dennis's
> argument to be similar, namely if we do
> not have a handle on the dogma of Islam
> at its founding as well as that of Christianity
> then and the history of the events when one
> impinged upon the other, we may not entirely
> understand what is going on now.
and again we find apoc and millennial themes all over the place.
>
> Assuming I understand Dennis correctly,
> I rejoice, for, as longtime list members know,
> Dennis and I see many things amicably but
> very differently.
>
> Is Dennis's procedure of going to the roots of
> the matter legitimate? Obviously, I think so.
> It's what I've been doing for the last 35 years.
>
> In matters of religion, especially matters of
> present day religion, we must all remember
> that there are folks on this list who have deep
> emotional attachments to one view or another.
> I, myself, fall into that category. This does
> not mean we cannot tell the truth. It does
> mean, however, we should say the truth as
> winningly and non-combatively as we know
> how. This is a fact I, too, often forget in the
> heat of the moment. For that I ask the list's
> forgiveness and indulgence.
agreed. tone matters. so does the subject.
r
>
>
> Regards to all!
> Frank
>
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