I don't think the commissioners are going to let GPs run the alphabet soup of
OOH care in the way they think. "Differently skilled professionals" is what
they talk about. I bet your trust would like the work though.
>>> Adrian Fogarty 10/31/05 06:10pm >>>
> As far as OOH is concerned maybe those of us in the ED should pull out of
the
minors and let the cheapest bid take it over. It does seem that that is the
plan. [JP]
Except that yours truly will always end up being the cheapest bid! It does irk
me that the GPs in my co-located OOH primary care centre, many of whom were my
SHOs a few years ago, are now earning much more than my own hourly rate for my
own OOH shopfloor cover.
AF (just ever-so-slightly bitter...)
John PASKINS <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
What is proposed is routine working till 7pm rather than routine to 5pm. I
know they CAN impose it at no cost. I think working till late if you are on
call makes sense but working till 7pm is neither late enough to be of use or
early enough to get much done outside work and a 10 am start seems to have
little value to those not condemned to driving 4x4 s to schools.
>>> Rowley Cottingham 10/31/05 02:18pm >>>
Our cover is until 21:00 every night and then on call. Occasionally you do
get away at 9 but not always.
Best wishes
Rowley.
-----Original Message-----
From: Accident and Emergency Academic List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adrian Fogarty
Sent: 31 October 2005 14:00
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Subject: Re: JP's contract
John, I would've thought ! the Trust have every right to make you work until
7pm. That's pretty clear in the contract. And it's got nothing to do with
BAEM, as far as I recall. BMA negotiated the contract, as you know, and they
agreed the 7pm bit.
But as for 9.5 shopfloor sessions, again, BMA suggested we should all have
2.5 SPAs, but agreed that there could be local variation. As we discussed in
an earlier thread, you can understand how an anaesthetist in a large trust
may only need 1 or 2 SPAs but most people in A&E (with fewer consultants)
require at least 2.5. I have 4 and I still struggle to get all my admin done
in that time!
AF
----- Original Message -----
From: "John PASKINS"
To:
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: GPs triage[Scanned]
BTW our trust is trying to impose late starts 10am, and late finishes, 7pm.
I
know this is not premium time ! so it costs them nothing but 3 nights a week
finishing at 7pm is a bit anti social and I thought the BAEM had said
something about this being OK only if it was what happened before the new
contract. (It also wants 9.5 shop floor sesions out of an 11.5 PA contract)
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