Hi Ursula and others,
This attachment I received from Kay Worswick should help with finding
the venue.
Hope that helps,
Rebekah
-----Original Message-----
From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ursula Troche
Sent: 03 October 2005 09:37
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: The European Comm. / train
Dear David and all,
thanks for the interesting information. I have just
sent them a mail. Will they have any rep. of ENCP
attending 'our' Newcastle conference - which would be
a perfect opp. to network?
Now a different question, which i asked before. Re.
the Newcastle conference: how do I get from the
railway station to the conference venue?
thanks, Ursula
--- David Fryer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Annie,
>
> 'Organisational membership' was discussed but no
> decision recorded in the minutes. A sub-committee,
> composed of Jose Ornelas, Terri Mannarini and Serdar Degirmencioglu.
>
> Jose's email address is: [log in to unmask]
>
> Terri's email address is below
>
> Serdar's email address is: [log in to unmask]
>
> The emerging consensus seemed likely to be that
> organisations should be able to join at the same
> rates at individual members (free for community
> groups with no income . . . etc) but such
> membership would only provide one vote at a general
> assembly (the key decision making body in theory).
>
> As I said before this matter is really still to be
> settled but rather than just waiting I would suggest
> you set the pace by making enquiries re how - if
> your SW groups wants to join - but remember the more
> members the more votes you have and many of your
> members would - I imagine and hope - be able to ECPA
> members with a fee of zero euro.
>
> Serdar (Turkey) is a very hard working and committed
> member of ECPA and could be relied upon to follow up enquiries
> especially proactively and swiftly.
>
> Re the hard work you referred to: I should have said
> that Jim Orford as the last Co-ordinator of ENCP did
> a massive amount of work in making the setting up
> ECPA possible. Jim did not want to stand for the
> ECPA President position and is not listed in the
> minutes as a member of an ECPA working group.
>
> David
>
> David Fryer
> Community Psychology Group
> University of Stirling
> FK9 4LA
> Scotland
> +44 (0) 1786 467650 (tel)
> +44 (0) 1786 467641 (fax)
> [log in to unmask]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Annie Mitchell
> Sent: 30 September 2005 10:16 am
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: The European Community Psychology
> Association
>
>
> Hi David ( and all)
>
> Thanks for thoughtful presentation to us of the
> issues, and for the
> incredible hard amount of work that goes into this
> sort of development.
>
> We have a meeting next Friday of the Southwest
> Community Psychology network
> ( our theme: social exclusion/ inclusion). Our
> network is totally informal
> and comprises community members all walks of life -
> could we be affiliated
> in some way, or would we need to join individually ?
> What is the practical
> next step we would need to take as individuals or
> collectively to get
> involved?
>
> Thanks
>
> Annie-
>
> --On 30 September 2005 10:12 +0100 David Fryer <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Dawn,
> >
> > Great questions - thanks.
> >
> > You do not need to have psychology credentials
> (undergraduate or
> > postgraduate) to be a member of ECPA - ECPA
> members are very explicit
> > that we want to be accessible to / inclusive of
> people from other
> > disciplines and from no disciplines, including
> people who have done no
> > tertiary study; also to / of other professionals
> than psychologists
> > and non-professionals including community
> activists. We explicitly
> > reject the idea that only credentialed
> psychologists have the relevant
> > skills and expertise.
> >
> > You also do not need to come from 'Europe' (in
> either the EU sense or
> > a wider sense) to be a member of ECPA. People from
> all over the world
> > (and beyond if any apply!) are welcome. However,
> ECPA is in its very
> > early stages. Decisions could not legitimately be
> made for ECPA by
> > ENCP and until ECPA had members it could not have
> a General Assembly
> > or an Executive Committee (Board) or President. So
> at the first
> > General Assembly people attending from outside
> Europe (USA and South
> > Africa) were welcomed as members and able to vote
> in the election for
> > ECPA President but an informal agreement was
> reached that it would not
> > be appropriate for non Europeans to be members of
> the first Executive
> > committee, one of whose first tasks once appointed
> was to make some
> > recommendations to the next General Assembly re
> membership. A working
> > group is currently looking into organisational
> membership. There are
> > issues to work out here.
> >
> > To be a member of ECPA you DO have to subscribe to
> the set of values
> > and assumptions given below, pay the relevant fee
> (or non fee if
> > unwaged) and be accepted by the General Assembly.
> The meaning in
> > practice of the latter requirement has still to be
> worked out. It is
> > required by the founding Constitution imposed by
> Belgian law. We
> > envisaged that there might be organisations that
> might express a wish
> > to join which members would feel were not
> appropriate and there would
> > need to be some process of 'approval'.
> >
> > I want to say I feel a little conflict in relaying
> this information
> > because I am purposely highlighting the positive
> potential of a ECPA
> > which is but a few days old. Even on day 1 in
> Naples I personally had
> > concerns as to whether the potential would become
> actuality. We all
> > know that what happens in practice in many
> organisations is often very
> > different from what should happen according to the
> constitutions and
> > decisions legitimately taken. The ground rules for
> ECPA seem to me to
> > offer opportunities to construct a progressive
> community psychological
> > association consistent with progressive community
> psychology values.
> > However what actually happens will depend on how
> many members there
> > are, how vigilant they are of their constitutional
> and other rights
> > and how hard they work for a progressive
> association. For those sort
> > of reasons I would like to see a mass membership
> in ECPA of people
> > from a variety of walks of life who wish to
> collaborate in progressive
> > thinking and action in relation to the aims values
> and objectives of
> > the ECPA, with which I am pretty much in
> agreement.
> >
> > I hope this message steers a line between being
> naively optimistic and
> > cynically pessimistic. There are also good reasons
> for critical
> > reflection on the development but I am purposely
> not doing that here
> > and now in this forum.
> >
> > David
> >
> > David Fryer
> > Community Psychology Group
> > University of Stirling
> > FK9 4LA
> > Scotland
> > +44 (0) 1786 467650 (tel)
> > +44 (0) 1786 467641 (fax)
> > [log in to unmask]
>
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