Rowdy, one of the things your query highlights is the lack of a quick, 
comprehensive and reliable means of canvassing key sources of information. 
For example, there is no single email network to which all organisational 
members of the ATC belong. If there were, and if it were confined to the 
exchange of information (so that you could be reasonably certain that 
messages would be read), you could pretty quickly get a kind of feedback 
upon which you could more or less confidently base arguments for potential 
take-up of a course, and how it might be better tailored to suit needs in 
this or that sector. Similarly with EFTC, Community of Communities and 
Charterhouse Group. This email list and TC-OF are useful for floating 
questions and gathering impressionistic responses; but are less useful when 
something more certain and comprehensive is needed: when you want to be 
able to build with reliable confidence on the response you get.

Whether organisations would be willing to be hooked into an information 
network of that kind, the usefulness of which would depend on the extent to 
which all the relevant organisations belonged to it and also monitored 
their network emails, is a question. The ability of the field to progress 
quickly, to respond to new initiatives or new threats, and to develop new 
possibilities, would probably be enhanced. But would progress, creativity 
and flexibility be sufficient arguments for overcoming the difficulties?

best,

Craig

At 09:20 07/09/2005, you wrote:

>Kevin
>
>Thanks.  I understand that there is an MA in U of Reading which is built 
>around work in children's TCs but this is a traditional taught 
>course.  What I'm suggesting would be entirely on-line (and therefore 
>distance learning) and just at PG Cert level.  I'm looking forward to 
>other comments too.
>
>
>Rowdy Yates
>Senior Research Fellow
>Scottish Addiction Studies
>Sociology, Social Policy & Criminology Section
>Department of Applied Social Science
>University of Stirling
>
>W: 
><http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/scot-ad/>http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/scot-ad/ 
>
>
>T: +44(0)1786 - 467737
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>M: 07960 - 403392
>---------- From:   Therapeutic Communities on behalf of Kevin Healy Reply 
>To:       Therapeutic Communities Sent:   Tuesday, September 6, 2005 9:50 
>PM To:     [log in to unmask] Subject:        Re: 
>Developing Postgrad Learning for TC staff
>
>Hi Rowdy,   My initial response is to welcome this idea in 
>principle.  I've looked at the the website below and am impressed by what 
>is already in place.  I imagine that TCs would welcome some practice 
>placements that are well thought through.  I look forward to other 
>responses.   Kevin
>-----Original Message----- From: Therapeutic Communities 
>[<mailto:[log in to unmask]>mailto:[log in to unmask]]On 
>Behalf Of Eric Broekaert Sent: 06 September 2005 10:42 To: 
>[log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Developing Postgrad 
>Learning for TC staff
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: Rowdy Yates To: 
>[log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 
>2:39 PM Subject: Developing Postgrad Learning for TC staff
>
>Hi
>
>This is just a brief request for feedback.  As you may know, Scottish 
>Addiction Studies at University of Stirling offers a number of on-line 
>courses.  We are currently considering putting together a postgraduate 
>certificate on TC methodology and practice.  The intention would be to put 
>together lecture material in on-line format which would cover theory and 
>practice in all types of TC - NHS psychiatric TCs, addiction TCs, 
>children's TCs etc.  In outline, tthe course would probably look similar 
>to our course - PG Cert. European Studies in Substance Misuse  ( 
><http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/scot-ad/eurostudies.php>http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/scot-ad/eurostudies.php 
>).  That is, there would be two modules each of 30 credits.  The first 
>module would comprise around 20 on-line lectures hopefully including some 
>ATC/ EFTC luminaries as guest lecturers.  The second module would include 
>a practice placement in an appropriate TC and an individual study project 
>(dissertation) based upon original data  collected during the 
>placement.  Those who wished to do so, could combine their study of this 
>course with the PG Cert. European Studies in Substance Misuse giving them 
>a postgraduate diploma.  In that case, completion of a 60 credit 
>dissertation would  lead to a full Masters. That's the general idea.  I 
>have four queries
>
>1.  Is there a general demand for a course of this kind?
>
>2. Is the format outlined appropriate?
>
>3. Would SAS be the right people to deliver it or would it send out the 
>wrong signals about TC (and the course) being all about addiction? 4. 
>Would TCs generally welcome such a course and be prepared to manage 
>placements?
>
>This is an idea which is very much at the drawing board stage. I would 
>very much welcome your thoughts and comments.
>
>
>Rowdy Yates Senior Research Fellow Scottish Addiction Studies Sociology, 
>Social Policy & Criminology Section Department of Applied Social Science 
>University of Stirling
>
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