1939 for the start of WWII? 1936 is the date when the defence committee
put in place most of the theory of the infrastructure of future defence
of the UK.


Thank You
 
David Evans
Historic Environment Record Officer
Planning & Environment
South Gloucestershire Council
Kingswood
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-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Sites & Monuments Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of CARLISLE, Phil
Sent: 23 August 2005 13:50
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Use of Periods

Sorry Fishfolk but I think some of you may be interested in this debate.

Hi Nick et al

I agree that we could take this to the nth degree here and include wars
etc. The way we record Second World War stuff in AMIE is to record the
overall period as 20th Century with min date 1939 max date 1945 and a
display date of Second World War.

The display date, which is free text, allows you to refine your periods
sufficiently without recourse to adding the Wars as types of period.

I really don't want this to become another 'TIMELINES' free-for-all but
the fact that time is still an issue means that we may indeed have to
revisit it.

Oh well....... 

Phil Carlisle
Data Standards Supervisor
National Monuments Record Centre
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Sent: 23 August 2005 13:38
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Subject: Re: Use of Periods

Hi Martin, 

I think the move away from Modern is a good idea - especially as it
solves the problem of what you call the period after 2050 (the cut off
date used in our software).

As for the Use of Victorian/Georgian etc - this seems ok to me in
theory, but there are other valid terms that you could start to include
on this basis, and it could be a can of worms eg World War I; World War
II, 

best wishes

Nick Boldrini
Historic Environment Record Officer
Heritage Section
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North Yorkshire County Council
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The DSU has recently made some changes to the PERIODS hierarchy used by
the NMRs AMIE system (see below). We are now consulting with system
users here before making changes to records. We would also like to
consult other users of the PERIODS hierarchy especially HERs using our
reference data (e.g. those using HBSMR). If your PERIOD list is brought
into line with that at the NMR then the issues we are consulting NMR
users over will be of equal relevance.

 

Regards

 

Martin

 

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Martin Newman

Datasets Development Manager

 

 

 

AMIE Period Change

 

Recent changes to AMIE have seen the replacement of the MODERN period
with the two periods 20TH CENTURY and 21ST CENTURY.

 

Additional regal periods of TUDOR, ELIZABETHAN, STUART, JACOBEAN,
HANOVERIAN, GEORGIAN and VICTORIAN have also been added (or in the case
of VICTORIAN been in existence for some time but not used).

 

DSU would welcome comments on how periods should be used/are being used
to record POST MEDIEVAL dates.

 

For instance there are c.173000 records in AMIE which are currently
identified as being POST MEDIEVAL in date. Of those over 36,000 have
min/max dates falling within the VICTORIAN period.

 

Where a monument is known to have been built after 1837 but before 1901
does it make sense to record this as VICTORIAN?

 

A similar number of records exist for the GEORGIAN period between 1714
and 1830.

 

Two questions need answering:

 

1.	Are users happy with using 20th and 21st Century instead of
MODERN?
2.	Should POST MEDIEVAL records be updated to VICTORIAN/GEORGIAN
etc. where the phase is a construction/alteration/repair phase?

 

 

 

 

 


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