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Re: shifting to a blog

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Simon Mills <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:31:06 +0100

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  I'm personally very much against moving to a blog and I think that Jeremy
in his last few posts has succintly described the issues that for me mean
this would be a bad move for the list and I have yet to see these issues
addressed by any of the pro-blog listees. It is not a matter of access it is
very much an issue regarding whether an environment works well for
discussion and I do not think that a blog can. 

best

Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Hunsinger
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: 7/21/2005 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WDL] shifting to a blog

The difference is in the mode of provision of and requirements of  
access.  I agree with Jenny that blogs can provide email outlets and  
that is interesting... but that generally does not include the  
discussion, which is usually only threaded discussion.  the other  
problem is that while it is fine to post things to  blogs from email  
and many people do that... when you do that from multiple parties, if  
you can imagine,the quotations, etc. all reposted to the blog.  a  
blog contrarily is usually cleaner than that, and i suspect finding  
that on the web in a blog format, instead of in a n email list format  
that can be interacted with in bloglike means, is a substantive  
difference.    The way we communicate vie email is post-response, it  
forms a tree, that divides ad infinitum, and occasionally  
recombines.   the way a blog discussion continues is via threads,  
which branches, but the replies are to the previous part of the  
thread.  the difference is between a frayed rope, where threads get  
smaller and smaller, as compared to a rhyzomatic strawberry plant  
where things get mixed and intertwined and the whole becomes itself  
in a way that is different than the way the individual threads are  
part of a rope.
On Jul 20, 2005, at 7:37 PM, beowolf2 wrote:

> To blog or not.....the little formality we have (which might not be  
> a bad
> thing) would be lost...thought structure might change...would it  
> provide for
> an increase or decrease in comments? I don't know and would  
> probably not
> continue (which might represent an asset). Blogs seem to me to  
> suggest a
> different sort of thing. In any case our medium of exchange would  
> still be
> words in English. Don't see much difference.......
>
> Cheers, scott malby
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jenny Weight" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 4:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [WDL] shifting to a blog
>
>
> Hi
>
> --sorry if this has already been said, my reading is intermittent-- 
> but with
> much blogging software, you can subscribe to receive an emailed  
> version of
> each new post. In that way, people who prefer an email list would  
> barely
> know the difference.
>
> This doesn't apply to comments, however (as far as I know). However, I
> suspect comments would need to be disabled, to avoid comment spam.
>
> cheers, geniwate
>
> Jenny Weight
> Lecturer in networked and programmed media
> School of Applied Communication, RMIT
> 61 03 992 53022
>
>  skype me! callto://geniwate
>
>
>>>> [log in to unmask] 07/20/05 10:53 PM >>>
>>>>
> I've been less busy this past days.  On the blog, I say no! no!  I  
> prefer
> this medium. It is easier to access, at least for me.
> Have a pleasant conference, Sue.   Wish I can be there, but I am  
> thousands
> of miles away from destination.
>
> rgds,
> Jumoke
>
> Sue Thomas <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Thanks Jordan. I would strongly advise anyone who is having trouble  
> with the
> digest to experiment with their settings. I have been assisting  
> various
> people with this and the right setting for you does seem to depend  
> very much
> on the system you use - there is no one right way. So please do follow
> Jordan's example and check out your own options. (info at the end  
> of every
> email)
>
> Re Jordan's change of heart - 17 people have voted to date: 11 for  
> a blog &
> 6 against. But I guess Jordan's declaration changes that to 10 for  
> and 7
> against.
>
> Any more second thoughts from anyone? Maybe we should be discussing  
> first
> and voting later.
>
> sue
>
>
>
> From: Communication Education
>
>
> Hi
> I actually voted yes to shifting to a blog, but I recant! In  
> finding out how
> to vote in the poll I found out how to switch my digest options to  
> html   so
> thatıs cut down todayıs digest to the odd few thousand lines (down
> considerably from text-only which gave me text-only but also html code
> versions of everyoneıs messages   very long and difficult to trawl  
> through).
> Now if we could agree to only include the snippets of previous  
> posts that
> contextualise responses, my personal reasons for voting yes would  
> be done
> away with. I know that there were other reasons but Iım only  
> commenting on
> mine which were to do with digest difficulties. I agree with Jeremy  
> that the
> type of community would be changed by a blog.
>
> Best
> Jordan
> School of Creative Communication
> University of Canberra
>
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