I think that if system providers have any vision they should be working
on "dis-integrating" their systems. That is reducing to interoperable
components the major areas of functionality such that content management
and discovery (so we don't have to bulk load) is one module Assessment
would be another, presentation another and so on. All modules exposing a
web interface and working together while allowing us to select
best-of-breed components to suit us. I will not be asking system
suppliers to build a bigger monolith, however short-term attractive that
might seem as a business model. As interesting as the Moodle LAMS
project is I confess my heart sank when I read of it.
Nigel Peet
South Cheshire College
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Hi Andy
That is a good point well made, importing 1600 Content Packages is a
drag!
What will happen if NLN Materials are repurposed and released to other
sectors, like schools. MOODLELAMS will provide HE/FE/Schools and ACL a
free
to use turn-key solution. To make this bullet proof the best way to
deliver
content would be through a web service, where content is pushed to
learning
systems. We are too reliant on mundane jobs that are difficult to
manage,
we need to offer systems that let people concentrate on the learning and
how they use content. Will the JORUM National Repository offer a web
service to surface content? Such a service would change the face of
e-learning.
Luke Bennett
The Guardian, Learnthings
Production Manager
www.learnpremium.co.uk
5th Floor, 79 Farringdon Road
London EC1M 3JU
Mobile: 07977 059 183
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I have to agree with the comments Luke made here. I see point one (the
bulk import of content packages) to be hugely important. We here at the
NLN have produced 1600 packages, and it is hugely frustrating for our
users to have to import (and then classify and assign) the packages one
by one.
I believe that with a more general/standardised adoption of metadata,
even at quite a low level, the materials could be imported as a batch
process. Surely one of the reasons why a XML manifest based content
production method is used by a lot of people in the first place is the
power and flexibility of automatic process?
Andy
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Subject: Re: [VLES] MOODLE with LAMS
Hi All
Moodle and LAMS integration will have a massive impact on the landscape
of
the VLE marketplace. Commercial VLE providers will have to revisit their
systems. Three things that would add significant value to the offering
would be:
1. Bulk import of IMS Content Packages
2. Out the box integration with Windows Active Directory
3. Search functionality based on IMS metadata
Does anybody in the community know if any of the above are in the
making?
Since a Colossus is in the making why not make the order taller?
Luke Bennett
The Guardian, Learnthings
Production Manager
www.learnpremium.co.uk
5th Floor, 79 Farringdon Road
London EC1M 3JU
Mobile: 07977 059 183
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