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Re: Sites not publishing accounting data

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"Gordon, JC (John)" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 24 May 2005 13:37:01 +0100

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I am in favour of this, with the caveat that I am not one of those who
would have to do any work. 

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of owen maroney
> Sent: 24 May 2005 12:52
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Sites not publishing accounting data
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Well, if we've learned one thing over the last year is that if LCG
> doesn't have the manpower/inclination to do something, we can 
> often just
> do it ourselves...  (and often push LCG into finding the
> manpower/inclination on the way)
> 
> So, is it possible for us to create a GridPP apt/yum/up2date 
> repository
> where we can put all the fixes and extra rpms GridPP wishes?
> 
> Adding rpms to this repository and keeping it up to date should be
> responsibility of the UK/I ROC (ie. the Deployment Team - Tier 2
> Co-ordinators, Steve Traylen, the various specialist support 
> posts etc.)
> Verifying it has the correct rpms would probably involve the 
> UK testzone
> sites.
> 
> regards,
> Owen.
> 
> Alessandra Forti wrote:
> 
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > I've done the saem for manchester and it works.
> >
> > cheers
> > alessandra
> >
> > On Tue, 24 May 2005, Peter Gronbech wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Simon and all,
> >> I agree with your point that the LCG release should work 
> as is, or there
> >> should be an updates dir to point yum at. In the mean time 
> this is how I
> >> do it, just for info....
> >>
> >>
> >> I make a local mirror of SL304 and LCG as per the wiki entry here:
> >> http://goc.grid.sinica.edu.tw/gocwiki/Mirror_LCG_Packages
> >> and use yum with yaim as described here:
> >> http://goc.grid.sinica.edu.tw/gocwiki/Using_yum_to_install_LCG
> >>
> >> I then added a separate tree called oxford for extra bits 
> like ganglia,
> >> yumit, java and the latest apel rpm.
> >> So my yum repository is /localdisk/yum, as below, If then 
> type yum-arch
> >> oxford
> >> that produces the headers so that the oxford bit can be added to my
> >> yum.conf.
> >> Then I can just do a yum -y update on all my nodes and I 
> pick up the
> >> apel rpm.
> >>
> >> Cheers Pete
> >>
> >> [root@t2lcfg yum]# ls -al
> >> total 24
> >> drwxr-xr-x    6 root     root         4096 Apr 29 10:32 .
> >> drwxr-xr-x    4 root     root         4096 Apr 20 10:15 ..
> >> drwxr-xr-x    4 root     root         4096 Apr 20 13:17 lcg
> >> drwxr-xr-x    3 root     root         4096 May 19 17:10 oxford
> >> drwxr-xr-x    3 root     root         4096 Apr 21 07:53 SL
> >> drwxr-xr-x    3 root     root         4096 Apr 26 10:48 yaim
> >> [root@t2lcfg yum]# ls -al oxford
> >> total 36092
> >> drwxr-xr-x    3 root     root         4096 May 19 17:10 .
> >> drwxr-xr-x    6 root     root         4096 Apr 29 10:32 ..
> >> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       582662 Apr 29 13:02
> >> edg-rgma-apel-3.4.44-1.noarch.rpm
> >> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       582658 May  6 11:11
> >> edg-rgma-apel-3.4.45-1.noarch.rpm
> >> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       105471 May  4 12:54
> >> ganglia-monitor-core-gmond-2.5.7-1.i386.rpm
> >> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096 May 19 17:10 headers
> >> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     35602188 Apr 15 13:23
> >> j2sdk-1_4_2_08-linux-i586.rpm
> >> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root         9756 Apr 29 10:36
> >> yumit-client-2.0.2-1.noarch.rpm
> >>
> >>
> >> yum.conf
> >> [root@t2mon02 install-scripts]# more /etc/yum.conf
> >> [main]
> >> cachedir=/var/cache/yum
> >> debuglevel=2
> >> logfile=/var/log/yum.log
> >> pkgpolicy=newest
> >> tolerant=1
> >> exactarch=1
> >>
> >> [sl303server]
> >> name=SL 303 main
> >> 
> #baseurl=ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/303/$b
> asearch/SL
> >> /RPMS/
> >> 
> baseurl=http://t2lcfg.physics.ox.ac.uk/yum/SL/3.0.4/$basearch/SL/RPMS/
> >>
> >> [sl303errata]
> >> name=SL 303 errata
> >> 
> baseurl=http://t2lcfg.physics.ox.ac.uk/yum/SL/3.0.4/$basearch/
> errata/SL/
> >> RPMS/
> >>
> >>
> >> [oxfordserver]
> >> name=Oxford
> >> baseurl=http://t2lcfg.physics.ox.ac.uk/yum/oxford/
> >>
> >> [sl-lcg]
> >> name=LCG packages
> >> baseurl=http://t2lcfg.physics.ox.ac.uk/yum/lcg/2_4_0/sl3/
> >>
> >> [sl-lcg-ca]
> >> name=LCG CA packages
> >> baseurl=http://t2lcfg.physics.ox.ac.uk/yum/lcg/ca/
> >>
> >>
> >> [sl-yaim]
> >> name=LCG Yaim Software for
> >> baseurl=http://t2lcfg.physics.ox.ac.uk/yum/yaim/sl3
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Peter Gronbech        Unix Systems Manager      Tel No. : 
> 01865 273389
> >> Department of Particle Physics                  Fax No. : 
> 01865 273418
> >> University of Oxford,
> >> Keble Road, Oxford  OX1 3RH, UK  E-mail : 
> [log in to unmask]
> >> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes
> >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Simon George
> >> Sent: 24 May 2005 11:06
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Sites not publishing accounting data
> >>
> >> Hi Jeremy,
> >>
> >> at the last tb-support meeting, as far as I recall, it was 
> confirmed
> >> that the accounting package in LCG 2.4.0 does not work, which was
> >> thought likely to be the reason why some sites (e.g. RHUL) 
> had followed
> >> the installation instructions but not got accounting working.
> >>
> >> I asked why fixes considered necessary (like this) are not 
> put in to the
> >> apt/yum rpm respository for LCG software, so they can be upgraded
> >> automatically or by site admins just running the standard update
> >> command. We are already doing this to get o/s updates and 
> CA updates. It
> >> has to be by far the easiest and most standard way to 
> distribute both
> >> important bug fixes and security fixes. I don't see why 
> this needs to be
> >> any more complicated. Has there been any progress on this?
> >>
> >> I still maintain that I should not have to go beyond the 2.4.0
> >> installation instructions (and maintenance instructions 
> when they are
> >> available) to get my site functioning as fully as LCG 
> needs. If that is
> >> not true, the the problem is with LCG 2.4.0, not my site!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Simon
> >>
> >> Coles, J (Jeremy) wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear All
> >>>
> >>> At the last TB-SUPPORT meeting we reviewed sites not publishing
> >>
> >> accounting data but reiterated the need for this to be 
> collected so that
> >> we understand usage of the resources.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> The following sites are still not producing any data. 
> Please could the
> >>
> >> relevant Tier-2 coordinator follow up with their sites to 
> understand any
> >> problems:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> hp-bristol
> >>> csTCDie
> >>> Cavendish-LCG2
> >>> LivHEP-LCG2
> >>> QMUL-eScience
> >>> RHUL-LCG2
> >>> UCL-HEP
> >>>
> >>> I understand that there are some special cases here. If there are
> >>
> >> problems with the site (publishing) we need to understand 
> how to improve
> >> the situation. Where everything is set up correctly but 
> jobs are just
> >> not arriving we need to follow up with the VOs.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks,
> >>> Jeremy
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > ********************************************
> > * Dr Alessandra Forti                      *
> > * Technical Coordinator - NorthGrid Tier2  *
> > * http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/aforti        *
> > ********************************************
> 
> --
> =======================================================
> Dr O J E Maroney # London Tier 2 Technical Co-ordinator
> 
> Tel. (+44)20 759 47802
> 
> Imperial College London
> High Energy Physics Department
> The Blackett Laboratory
> Prince Consort Road, London, SW7 2BW
> ====================================
> 

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