JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for MEDIEVAL-RELIGION Archives


MEDIEVAL-RELIGION Archives

MEDIEVAL-RELIGION Archives


MEDIEVAL-RELIGION@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

MEDIEVAL-RELIGION Home

MEDIEVAL-RELIGION Home

MEDIEVAL-RELIGION  April 2005

MEDIEVAL-RELIGION April 2005

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: Psalms

From:

Terrill Heaps <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:48:15 -0800

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (131 lines)

medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture

Rochelle Altman wrote:

> Some of George Joye's translations of 1530 and 1534 replace those of
> Coverdale's 1535 collation in the 1549 Book of Common Prayer. Is that what
> you are referring to?
>
> Then, Thomas Sternhold's Metrical Psalms also were published in 1549... I
> used to wonder about the Bay Psalm Book (typical English ridng rhyme)--
> until I read Sternhold's...

Quite!  It is amazing how long the Sternhold & Hopkins was used. Amazing too,
how long the "successor" book of rhymed Psalms, the Tate & Brady, had usage
in some of the village parishes.

I think that both the Sternhold & Hopkins and the Tate & Brady are uneven.
The rhymed Psalms range from pretty good to doggerel.

I do have to credit Tate & Brady for (in my opinion) their best piece of
work, which was a the translation of a hymn, the Jesu Christus Surrexit
Hodie, from 14th century Latin, which (I should think) all English-speaking
Christians know: "Jesus Christ is ris'n today,  Alleluia! Our triumphant holy
day, Alleluia!" etc. The doxological 4th stanza added by Fr. Charles Wesley
makes the hymn a sine qua non at Paschaltide.

Tate & Brady's rhymed version of Psalm 42 has become the hymn "As pants the
hart," with a doxolgical 4th stanza. Example below:

Cheers,

Terrill

Tate & Brady:

As pants the hart for cooling streams
when heated in the chase,
so longs my soul, O God, for thee
and thy refreshing grace.

For thee, my God, the living God,
my thirsty soul doth pine:
O when shall I behold thy face,
thou Majesty divine?

Why restless, why cast down, my soul?
Hope still, and thou shalt sing
the praise of him who is thy God,
thy health's eternal spring.

To Father, Son, and Holy Ghost,
the God whom we adore,
be glory, as it was, is now,
and shall be evermore.

BCP 1928:

Psalm 42. _Quemadmodum._

LIKE as the hart desireth the water-brooks, * so longeth my soul
after thee, O God.
2 My soul is athirst for God, yea, even for the living God: * when
shall I come to appear before the presence of God?
3 My tears have been my meat day and night, * while they daily
say unto me, Where is now thy God?
4 Now when I think thereupon, I pour out my heart by myself; * for I
went with the multitude, and brought them forth into the house of
God;
5 In the voice of praise and thanksgiving, * among such as keep
holy-day.
6 Why art thou so full of heaviness, O my soul? * and why art thou
so disquieted within me?
7 O put thy trust in God; * for I will yet thank him, which is the
help of my countenance, and my God.

8 My soul is vexed within me; * therefore will I remember thee from
the land of Jordan, from Hermon and the little hill.
9 One deep calleth another, because of the noise of thy
water-floods1; * all thy waves and storms are gone over me.
10 The LORD will grant his loving-kindness in the daytime; * and
in the night season will I sing of him, and make my prayer unto the
God of my life.
11 I will say unto the God of my strength, Why hast thou forgotten
me? * why go I thus heavily, while the enemy oppresseth me?
12 My bones are smitten asunder as with a sword, * while mine
enemies that trouble me cast me in the teeth;
13 Namely, while they say daily unto me, * Where is now thy God?
14 Why art thou so vexed, O my soul? * and why art thou so
disquieted within me?
15 O put thy trust in God; * for I will yet thank him, which is the
help of my countenance, and my God.

Psalm 41 (42) from the  Vulgate version on the University of Minnesota Gopher
server:

41:2 quemadmodum desiderat cervus ad fontes aquarum ita desiderat anima mea
ad te Deus
41:3 sitivit anima mea ad Deum *fortem; vivum quando veniam et parebo ante
faciem Dei
41:4 fuerunt mihi lacrimae meae panis die ac nocte dum dicitur mihi cotidie
ubi est Deus tuus
41:5 haec recordatus sum et effudi in me animam meam quoniam transibo in loco
tabernaculi admirabilis usque ad domum Dei in voce exultationis et
confessionis sonus epulantis
41:6 quare tristis es anima mea et quare conturbas me spera in Deo quoniam
confitebor illi salutare vultus mei
41:7 Deus meus ad me ipsum anima mea conturbata est propterea memor ero tui
de terra Iordanis et Hermoniim a monte modico
41:8 abyssus *ad; abyssum invocat in voce cataractarum tuarum omnia excelsa
tua et fluctus tui super me transierunt
41:9 in die mandavit Dominus misericordiam suam et nocte canticum eius apud
me oratio Deo vitae meae
41:10 dicam Deo susceptor meus es quare oblitus es mei quare contristatus
incedo dum adfligit me inimicus
41:11 dum confringuntur ossa mea exprobraverunt mihi qui tribulant me dum
dicunt mihi per singulos dies ubi est Deus tuus
41:12 quare tristis es anima mea et quare conturbas me spera in Deum quoniam
*adhuc; confitebor illi salutare vultus mei *et; Deus meus

**********************************************************************
To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME
to: [log in to unmask]
To send a message to the list, address it to:
[log in to unmask]
To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion
to: [log in to unmask]
In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to:
[log in to unmask]
For further information, visit our web site:
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004
September 2004
August 2004
July 2004
June 2004
May 2004
April 2004
March 2004
February 2004
January 2004
December 2003
November 2003
October 2003
September 2003
August 2003
July 2003
June 2003
May 2003
April 2003
March 2003
February 2003
January 2003
December 2002
November 2002
October 2002
September 2002
August 2002
July 2002
June 2002
May 2002
April 2002
March 2002
February 2002
January 2002
December 2001
November 2001
October 2001
September 2001
August 2001
July 2001
June 2001
May 2001
April 2001
March 2001
February 2001
January 2001
December 2000
November 2000
October 2000
September 2000
August 2000
July 2000
June 2000
May 2000
April 2000
March 2000
February 2000
January 2000
December 1999
November 1999
October 1999
September 1999
August 1999
July 1999
June 1999
May 1999
April 1999
March 1999
February 1999
January 1999
December 1998
November 1998
October 1998
September 1998
August 1998
July 1998
June 1998
May 1998
April 1998
March 1998
February 1998
January 1998
December 1997
November 1997
October 1997
September 1997
August 1997
July 1997
June 1997
May 1997
April 1997
March 1997
February 1997
January 1997
December 1996
November 1996
October 1996
September 1996
August 1996
July 1996
June 1996
May 1996
April 1996


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager