Everything Priscilla says is accurate. I have extended the review until
the end of this week, but Monday is okay, which essentially makes it the
end of the month.

A main reason for the establishment of DC-Preservation is to have a forum
for discussing preservation metadata issues. One primary thing that the
group wanted initially to do was provide feedback to the PREMIS
development process. When we asked the PREMIS advisory committee and
working group to review the data dictionary and report, I considered
DC-Preservation essentially a reviewer. DC-Preservation had decided in
Shanghai to try to coordinate responses and send one from the group as a
whole. As Priscilla says, if there isn't time to send any comments now
(for this initial review) there will be a more public review and another
opportunity.

Rebecca

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Priscilla Caplan wrote:

> Tom et. al.,
>
> Maybe I can add some clarification.  You can think of the drafts at
> http://premis.lib.uchicago.edu:8888/premis/53 as a pre-release release, if
> that makes any sense.  PREMIS was constituted with a Working Group and an
> Advisory Group.  The Working Group runs major documents by the Advisory
> Group for their comments before finalizing.  Because the Advisory Group
> knows what we are about, we don't need to add much context.  In the case of
> the report and data dictionary, we took the opportunity to ask a small
> number of other reviewers, like DC-Preservation, to take a look at the same
> time.  Unfortunately, we didn't add the context that we should have.
>
> I believe Rebecca has extended the deadline for pre-release comments to the
> end of this month.  When we have all comments in hand, we will revise the
> report and data dictionary as needed, and then publish on the official
> OCLC/RLG PREMIS website.  (We also plan to add examples that are still in
> process.)  For the published version we will add a formal title, title page
> information, committee members etc., all the stuff you'd expect to find in
> a published report.  There is also a subcommittee working on XML bindings
> for the data dictionary, both standalone and as METS extension schema.
>
> The published version will not be the end of the initiative but really the
> beginning of the process of public review.  We anticipate receiving a
> certain number of comments when the documents are publicly released, which
> we may be able to fold into a 1.1 version fairly quickly.    We also expect
> that most feedback (and the best feedback) will come from sites trying to
> implement the data dictionary in new preservation repositories or to fold
> some elements into their working repositories, and that this type of
> feedback will take longer to drift in.  Our OCLC/RLG "handlers" are
> starting to work on the questions of how to handle ongoing maintenance of
> the Data Dictionary and what should become of the Data Dictionary in the
> longer term.
>
> Anyone who was not able to get comments in to us on the pre-release version
> will be able to submit comments on the published version.  We hope to have
> that on the Web in March or very early April, and we will announce it widely.
>
> Hope this helps.  Sorry for the confusion.
>
> p
>
> p.s.  Could you send a word elaborating on the architecture group's
> discussion of elements vs properties?
>
> At 11:07 AM 2/19/2005 +0100, Thomas Baker wrote:
> >Dear Corey,
> >
> >I have been aware of PREMIS for awhile, though my attempt
> >to get up to speed last November was frustrated when the
> >PDF file of the OCLC/RLG survey report did not print out
> >here (the technicians at OCLC figured it was a European/US
> >incompatibility, itself a bit worrying from a preservation
> >standpoint...).
> >
> >So I feel should know this already, but will ask anyway:
> >What is the basic context of the current call for comments?
> >The draft at http://premis.lib.uchicago.edu:8888/premis/53
> >looks like it should be the starting point for review, but
> >the document itself does not have a date, authors, links to
> >previous versions, or an explanation of its status (at least
> >not in the header).  Skimming through the Introduction and
> >Conclusion, I see that some of this context is explained
> >there, but not (at least, not obviously) in answer to my
> >basic question of what the review is meant to do and what
> >the status of the ultimate deliverable would be.
> >
> >On the face of it, I take this to be the report of a Working
> >Group, and after review that report would be finalized --
> >as a report.  If it is more than a report -- i.e., if it is
> >already considered a specification advancing towards a sort
> >of standardization -- then I would want to look at it even
> >more closely from a number of standpoints.
> >
> >On one level, it would appear to constitute another "core
> >of elements" in the vocabulary landscape (alongside DC,
> >FOAF, SKOS, and others), so I would want to understand
> >better the underlying data model, maintenance policies,
> >use of identifiers, and such.  For example, there has been
> >a very lucid and long-overdue discussion this past week on
> >DC-ARCHITECTURE about the subtle difficulties of mixing and
> >matching "properties" (in an RDF sense) with "elements"
> >(in the XML sense) in an open Semantic Web environment,
> >and I would want to understand where PREMIS stands in that
> >regard.
> >
> >However, I'm expecting that such a close reading would
> >take some time and possibly raise significant issues,
> >and the deadline is less than a week away.  In sum -- and
> >again, I feel I should already know this -- but what is the
> >significance of the February 25 deadline with regard to the
> >long-term standardization (assuming that is the goal) of a
> >PREMIS data dictionary?
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 09:40:05AM -0800, Corey Harper wrote:
> >> It occurs to me that I volunteered to coordinate this group's comments on
> >> the PREMIS Report and Element Set during the DC meeting in Shanghai.
> >>
> >> I'm guessing some of you may have already responded directly to Rebecca per
> >> her 1 Feb. email.  If anyone is still looking to comment, I'd gladly
> >> summarize any comments that are submitted to the list, so long as they come
> >> through a couple of days prior to next Friday's deadline.
> >>
> >> I plan to finish working through the draft documents with some colleagues
> >> here, who are also on the Preservation WG Listserv, and hope to have my own
> >> set of comments ready by Friday as well.
> >>
> >> Alternately, it looks like we do have a Wiki set up
> >> (http://dublincore.org/preservationwiki) and this kind of collaborative
> >> group review process seems like it might be well suited to the Wiki
> >> environment.  There may be some concerns about using it for this purpose,
> >> as it doesn't seem to be pass-worded or otherwise secured.  Then again, it
> >> isn't linked from anywhere either, so it's unlikely that anyone outside of
> >> this group will accidently stumble across it.
> >>
> >> Let me know what you all think, and as I said, I'd be happy to help
> >> facilitate getting group comments together.
> >>
> >> My apologize for not making this offer on list sooner.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> -Corey
> >>
> >> ----------
> >> Corey A Harper
> >> Metadata Librarian - CMET Team Leader
> >> Metadata and Digital Library Services
> >> University of Oregon
> >> 541/346.1854
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 02:20 PM 2/17/2005, you wrote:
> >> >This is a reminder that comments are due on the PREMIS work next
> >> >week. Original date was Feb. 21, but we will extend that until
> >> >Fri. Feb. 25.
> >> >
> >> >There is now a section on the PREMIS final report page that lists the
> >> >changes that we know are needed in the final report and data dictionary.
> >> >
> >> >Thank you for your input.
> >> >
> >> >Rebecca
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> >> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> >Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:27:37 -0500 (EST)
> >> >From: Rebecca S. Guenther <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >Subject: PREMIS final report and data dictionary
> >> >
> >> >We are pleased to announce the initial completion of the PREMIS final
> >> >report and data dictionary. These documents are for review by the PREMIS
> >> >Working Group, Advisory Commitee, and other invited experts before a more
> >> >general world-wide review. The documents still require final editing and
> >> >formatting. There are 3 documents:
> >> >
> >> >1. PREMIS Final Report
> >> >This narrative gives a summary of the activities of the PREMIS working
> >> >group and is an introduction to the PREMIS data dictionary. It explains
> >> >many of the decisions that the Core elements subgroup made when developing
> >> >the data dictionary, details the data model used, and defines
> >> >terminology. It should be read prior to reviewing the data dictionary.
> >> >
> >> >2. PREMIS Data Dictionary
> >> >This document is a complete specification of data elements (called
> >> >"semantic units") that make up this core preservation metadata element
> >> >set. It includes element names, definitions, applicability, repeatability,
> >> >obligation, examples, creation/maintenance notes, and usage notes. The
> >> >data dictionary is organized by type of entity, as explained in the data
> >> >model.
> >> >
> >> >3. Examples
> >> >There will be selected full examples for various types of digital objects.
> >> >This section is not yet completed, but will be shortly. We will announce
> >> >the availability of the examples in a separate message.
> >> >
> >> >To access the documents go to:
> >> >http://premis.lib.uchicago.edu:8888/premis
> >> >This site is password protected.
> >> >Login: premis
> >> >Password: promise
> >> >Then click on Review Draft of PREMIS Final Report
> >> >
> >> >How to send comments
> >> >Comments may be sent to this list (premis-all or DC preservation).  If you
> >> >prefer, you may send personally to Rebecca Guenther ([log in to unmask]) and
> >> >Priscilla Caplan ([log in to unmask]).
> >> >
> >> >Deadline
> >> >Please send all comments within 3 weeks, by Feb. 21.
> >> >
> >> >Thank you all for your participation.
> >
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