Things are slightly different in Scotland as we have Disclosure
Scotland, rather than the CRB which runs the Disclosure checks. However
at Edinburgh we only check students at the point of offer/entry to the
course and they are not required to undergo a further check, we have not
encountered any problem with this to date. I suspect this may be
something which needs to be taken forward with the individual placement
agencies or a better alternative might be to open up discussions with
the Nursing & Midwifery Council or CMHS to reach agreement regarding
this issue.
Best wishes
Ms Lesley Jackson
Admissions Service Manager
Student Recruitment & Admissions
The University of Edinburgh
57 George Square
Edinburgh EH8 9JU
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Tel: +44 (0)131 651 3274
Fax: +44 (0)131 651 1236
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Watson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 11 February 2005 15:29
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Latest News from the CRB
I would be grateful for feedback from colleagues. We are coming under
increasing pressure to repeat CRB checks on a yearly basis for our
nursing students because some of our placements are refusing to accept
CRB certificates which are over 12 months old. Are any of you coming
under similar pressure or are you already rechecking annually? Many
thanks Pat
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From: "Rob Dawson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: Latest News from the CRB
> I have noticed a general decline not only in the turn around time but
> also the quality of some of the disclosures. I use a system that
> allows me to print the forms rather than handwrite, so I am surprised
> when I receive disclosures with names misspelt etc which I then have
> to dispute.
>
> Secondly, we must be very careful when processing CRB applications
> that we stay in line with the Code of Practice and DPA. As a
> countersignatory we are "unambiguously responsible" for ensuring the
> identity of the applicant which we can only do by meeting the
> individual. Also we should not be requesting sensitive personal data
> from people who we are not entitlted to ask, eg applicants to courses
> before they have received an unconditional offer. I see no other time
> than enrolment or registration when we can legitimately ask for the
> application.
> --
> Thank you and kind regards
>
> Opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my
> employer
>
> Rob Dawson
> Institutional Compliance Officer
> University College Chester
> Parkgate Road
> Chester
> CH1 4BJ
>
> [log in to unmask]
> Chichester House 002
> Tel: 01244 392892
> Fax: 01244 392821
> http://www.chester.ac.uk/
>
>
>
> Quoting Richard Bunce <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> > Dear Rob
> > Thank you for this advice which, predictably, has beaten to me the
> > notification of this from CRB itself. I doubt whether, unless the
> > threshold is set at a ludicrously high level, it will affect us.
We're
> > currently running at between 1300 and 1500 applications per year,
> which is
> > rising since we took on getting CRB clearances for all our security
staff
> > (employed by a subsidiary company that also trades commercially and
> is
> > getting SIA accreditation) AND we're set up as an umbrella body
> (because,
> > amongst other things,of the no of staff employed by subsids that we
> have to
> >
> > process).
> >
> > Has anyone else noticed a deterioration in CRB's turn-round
> performance
> > this session? I think that, after what seemed to be a better year
in
> > 2003/4, we're now back to the black days of 2002/3 - we still have
> > about
> 50
> >
> > applications that we made last Sept/Oct that are outstanding, and
> > it's playing havoc with professional courses where placements are
> involved. I
> > am having to start looking at other ways to initiate this process,
> > to
see
> > whether we can make the applications even earlier (ie before the
> students
> > actually register). Maybe others are already doing this - but
we've
> > resisted it so far because it is a real pain to organise and could
expose
> > us to even greater costs of running the operation.
> >
> > Many thanks for all you do to keep us in touch in this area. rwb
> >
> > At 09:26 03/02/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> > >Dear all
> > >
> > >The CRB have recently released posted two new items of 'Latest
> News'
> > >on their website
> > >
> > >The first relates to their annual report & accounts. This can be
> accessed
> > >from the following link.
> > >
> > >http://www.crb.gov.uk/news/news.asp?
> strAreaNo=320&intelement=875
> > >
> > >And more interestingly an item relating to the introduction of
> measures to
> > >reduce the number of Registered Bodies. Link below.
> > >
> > >http://www.disclosure.gov.uk/index.asp?fuseaction=latestnews&id=96
> > >
> > >and
> > >
> > >http://www.crb.gov.uk/news/news.asp?
> strAreaNo=320&intelement=883
> > >
> > >I was wondering what impact this could have on Universities and
> > >whether HEI's were likely to be affected.
> > >
> > >I am happy to discuss any points raised at the next CRB Education
> > >Subgroup.
> > >
> > >Your thoughts are appreciated.
> > >--
> > >Thank you and kind regards
> > >
> > >Opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my
> employer
> > >
> > >Rob Dawson
> > >Institutional Compliance Officer
> > >University College Chester
> > >Parkgate Road
> > >Chester
> > >CH1 4BJ
> > >
> > >[log in to unmask]
> > >Chichester House 002
> > >Tel: 01244 392892
> > >Fax: 01244 392821
> > >http://www.chester.ac.uk/
> >
> > Richard Bunce
> > Senior Assistant Secretary (Corporate Services)
> > University of Hertfordshire, College Lane, Hatfield, AL10 9AB
> > DDI: +44 (0)1707 284904 Fax: +44 (0)1707 284918 Mob: 07845
> 079981
> > (w.e.f. 1/1/05)
> >
>
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