Mark,
Probably not at all relevant, but the mention of dipso reminded me of
the vms->unix conversion tool for dipso, described at
http://www.starlink.ac.uk/~dsb/dipso/vms.html
Chris is not confusing dipso and iuedr is he?
David
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Mark Taylor wrote:
> With my IUEDR support(defunct) hat on:
>
> Anyone remember IUERAW? A VAX->UNIX format conversion utility for
> IUEDR data it seems - Chris Lloyd from RAL wants it, as per the
> attched email exchange. Grepping in the IUEDR source/docs (or DIPSO
> source, or the whole of the USSC for that matter) doesn't show it up.
> In fact it doesn't even get a Google hit, which is quite impressive
> for a 6-letter word! If anyone can shed some light, either get
> back to me or to Chris directly.
>
> cheers
>
> Mark
>
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:52:08 -0000
> From: "Lloyd, C (Chris)" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: 'Mark Taylor' <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: RE: iueraw
>
> Mark,
>
> Thanks for your help. Unfortunately the RAW routine looks like a standard
> one for reading RAW iue images, not what I'm after. When the iue files were
> dearchived onto a VAX and user ran iuedr on a VAX there was no problem, but
> as people moved over to unix we introduced the UNIX_FORMAT utility which
> made the necessary format changes and this was run on the VAX. Later the VAX
> was removed and files were downloaded directly to unix machines and the
> format changes had to be made there, hence iueraw. I'm not sure that it was
> ever widely used, mostly here and UCL I guess. All I have is the executable
> and never had any documentation. So if that aids your search all to the
> good. My guess is that it should be bundled up somewhere with the iuedr code
> as that is its only use. I've heard back from Dave Mills who says...
>
> I do remember it. I think you will find it in either
> IUEDR or DIPSO, both of which you should still be able to
> grab from starlink sites.
>
> Ah, if it were that easy...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Taylor [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Mark Taylor
> Sent: 11 January 2005 16:18
> To: Lloyd, C (Chris)
> Subject: RE: iueraw
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Lloyd, C (Chris) wrote:
>
> > Well that was impressively quick. The IUERAW routine was written by Dave
> > Mills or more likely, Martin Clayton to do a little reformatting of the
> IUE
> > data so that they could be read on Unix machines by iuedr. So it's not
> > actually part of iuedr but a bit of a hack towards the end of the
> > development. There were two other routines that ran on a VAX that did a
> > similar job, UNIX_FORMAT and VAX_FORMAT, see
> >
> http://www.star.ucl.ac.uk/~mjc/iuedr/iuedr_help/VAX_to_UNIX_data_conversion.
> > html
> >
> > I've been casting about trying to get hold of Dave or Martin to see what
> > they have to say but no response yet.
> >
> > If you have any documentation or code or anything, I'd appreciate it.
>
> Not sure if I can provide any useful help, but here's what I have.
>
> You may have already spotted in the IUEDR help the following comment
> (http://www.star.ucl.ac.uk/~mjc/iuedr/iuedr_help/Accessing_data_via_NFS.html
> ):
>
> If the data resides on a VAX served disk then you must first convert
> its directory entry using the following command :
>
> UNIX_FORMAT image-name
>
> This command does not change the data in any way. It merely alters
> the description of the file format as stored in the VAX directory.
>
> If at some later stage you wish to use the VAX version of IUEDR on
> the same data file it first be necessary to use the command
>
> VAX_FORMAT image-name
>
> to convert back.
>
> I'm ashamed to say that I no longer have enough VAX/VMS knowledge at
> my fingertips to know exactly what is meant by this, but it sounds like
> UNIX_FORMAT doesn't modify the data file itself, so (assuming that
> you're working on *nix rather than VMS) this step probably represents
> a NOOP.
>
> On further investigation I also see a routine called RAW in the source
> which you can view here:
>
> http://andromeda.star.bris.ac.uk/cgi-bin/scb?raw_&iuedr
>
> (all IUEDR hyperlinked source can be found at
> http://andromeda.star.bris.ac.uk/cgi-bin/scb?package=iuedr).
>
> I ought to say that IUEDR has been nominally unsupported for some
> years now, but we like to help if we can, so if this doesn't sort you
> out let me know and I'll ask around, there are people here who have
> longer memories than me.
>
> Mark
>
> PS I'm away (at RAL as it happens) between tomorrow and the end of the week.
>
> --
> Mark Taylor Starlink Programmer Physics, Bristol University, UK
> [log in to unmask] +44-117-928-8776 http://www.star.bris.ac.uk/~mbt/
>
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