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I'll have to send as an attachment so anyone wishing to see it (besides
Chris) will have to request same. I'll then send it off-list.
MG
>From: Chris Laning <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: [M-R] Granum benedictum?
>Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:36:36 -0800
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>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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>How interesting! Yes thank you, that would be lovely.
>
>Can anyone suggest why such a thing might be a "prohibited" item in
>Elizabethan England? Does a "collapsible cross" like this <g> have some
>specifically Roman Catholic connotation?
>
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>From: Marjorie Greene <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: [M-R] Granum benedictum?
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>By the most extraordinary coincidence, I possess an item EXACTLY like your
>#2: it's a very elaborate cricifix given to me by my (German) father, its
>age I do not know. The base of the crucifix and the cross are formed by
>pieces of wood cunningly shaped so the whole thing holds together without
>any nails or any device used to keep the thing intact. The corpus, of
>course, is carved wood. If you wish I can send you a digital photo of it;
>my
>camera and the object are feet away from me at this moment.
>MG
>
> >From: Chris Laning <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> >Subject: [M-R] Granum benedictum?
> >Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:16:49 -0800
> >
> >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> >I am looking at a woodcut published by Bernard Garter in England in 1579,
> >labeled "Certaine of the Popes marchandize lately sent ouer into England"
> >and trying to figure out what the items on it are. They are helpfully
> >numbered, but I don't have a key to the numbers and the only Bernard
>Garter
> >manuscript I've been able to find on the Web doesn't seem to be the right
> >one.
> >
> >I've posted my scan of it (sorry about the book spine at the center) at:
> >http://photos2.flickr.com/3586984_4d57ace8bc_o.jpg
> >
> >The items that puzzle me are the ones numbered 6, 2, and 11. Item 11
>seems
> >to be some sort of holy card, but perhaps there's some other significance
> >to it that I'm missing. I have no idea what the segmented cross in item 2
> >is supposed to be -- it doesn't look like it represents a physical object
> >at all.
> >
> >Item 6 -- my main concern at the moment -- appears to be a small
> >heart-shaped drawstring pouch, and is labeled "Bauarie granum
>benedictum".
> >If, as is likely, the "u" represents a "v", this would translate as
> >something like "Bavarian grains blessed"(??). Does anyone have an idea
>what
> >this is?
> >
> >I'm also not sure why the beads (13, 14) are on there; items 9 and 10
>both
> >seem to be medallions containing Agnus Dei waxes, and other that having
> >Pope Innocent IV's name on it, I'm not at all sure what item 15 is
>either.
> >
> >(Item 1 seems to be a portable altar, item 3 an IHS medallion, 4 a
>saint's
> >medal, 5 a Papal bull, 7 & 8 rosaries and #12 may also be prayer beads of
> >some kind.)
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >____________________________________________________________
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