Dear All,
Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php?latest
as well as being listed with other minutes at
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php
Cheers, Tony
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Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 478, Kelvin Building Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
G12 8QQ, UK Video - IP: 194.36.1.32
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GridPP PMB Minutes 163 - 7th March 2005
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Present: Tony Doyle, Steve Lloyd, Dave Britton, Robin Middleton, Tony Cass
& Jeremy Coles. Peter Clarke, Dan Tovey & Sarah Pearce (by phone)
Apologies: John Gordon, Dave Kelsey & Roger Jones.
1. JPhysG
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SP said that the text had been completed for most of the chapters. PC
said he would look at the applications chapter and SP asked if SL would
review the middleware and deployment chapters. She would check that the
appropriate references had been been put in place for each chapter. It is
hoped that this would be completed for next week.
2. UK long-term management plan for LCG
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TD said this was in response to Chris Eck to state the UK position based
on the current situation. As per the email TD sent last week, the RRB has
2 PPARC representatives. The POB will become the PMB and be represented
by 1 person. The CB has 5 representatives - 1 for Tier-1 and 4 for
Regional Tier-2s. (They will also serve on the LCG Board.)
ACTION: TD to inform CE that we wish this arrangement to continue.
3. Tier-1 planning and next steps
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TD said that CE had been made aware of the v14 figures which are outdated
and therefore not comparable to v18. TD said the Tier-1 Board had to get
an approved version of the plan from DB. This would be discussed with the
PMB and then passed to the CB. TD and DB would talk about this later in
the day and then present the timeline for what is required from the Tier-1
Board. SL would also discuss this with them on behalf of the CB.
4. Review of Tier-2/Deployment Meetings
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Tier-2 Board
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SL reported on the Tier-2 Board meeting and commented briefly on some of
the issues raised.
He said the management status of each Tier was reviewed and each Tier-2
now has a web page. Minutes from meetings and quarterly reports will be
posted regularly. SL said new hardware was starting to appear in
NorthGrid and that everyone was keeping to their MoU commitments.
Software was starting to be upgraded slowly but this would hopefully be
easier next time.
Manpower was still slow as a number of positions were still not filled
so posts will have to be re-advertised.
VO policies - it was agreed that all Tier-2s would support all major HEP
experiments at some level.
A draft document to map the experiment requirements from the Tier-2
Computing Models has been prepared and circulated to the experiments for
comment.
Quarterly reporting was discussed briefly - the reporting mechanism will
remain unchanged for the time being.
We have put forward Lancaster (ATLAS) and Imperial (CMS) as possible
UK Tier-2s to participate in service challenges.
The next joint meeting will be held in Glasgow.
Deployment Team
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JC reported on the Deployment Team meeting and on some of the points he
had highlighted in his email.
He said the use of the Deployment page should be monitored and he hoped to
have a news item on this soon.
The role of the Tier-2 Coordinator still had to be resolved in terms of
responsibilities.
Other work is being interrupted due to overlap of quarterly reporting and
meetings.
Proposed UK Testzones - have to an area for testing in advance of release
then feedback to CERN. This will be led by a Tier-2 Coordinator.
A lot of time has been taken up with Deployment test plans.
As previously stated in Tier-2 Board meeting, UK upgrading is slow.
Deployment Board
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Deployment Team releases will take place every quarter though this will
clash with LCG Data Challenges who have the same release schedule.
A clearer understanding is needed in Networking and how it fits in.
There have been delays in the router and further insight is needed into
service challenges. PC and JC will discuss the Networking situation and
liasing with UKERNA later on today.
It is still not known what experiments are using Tier-2s (though
GridIreland is in place).
dCache is being updated and is being deployed in various Tier-2s.
It is difficult to implement SRM within timescale expected.
5. Grid Today Article
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TD asked if everyone could read the article prepared by RJ for Grid Today
and send him (RJ) comments by the end of the week. (NEW ACTION)
Actions
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140.9 RM to finalise LCG Deployment Logbook.
ongoing
157.2: RJ - review experiment computing models for Tier-1 to Tier-2
interactions in the UK.
ongoing
157.4: TD to co-ordinate development of Tier-1 allocation policy.
ongoing - a meeting to approve this will take place in 2 weeks
157.5: DB to co-ordinate development of new risk register.
ongoing - still waiting on other documents before this can be concluded.
157.9: RM to report on direction of GridPP in terms of middleware.
ongoing
157.11: JG to provide info. on VAT exemption criteria.
ongoing
157.12: SP to provide standard template talk for schools.
ongoing
159.1: TC to complete LCG Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.2: RM to complete Middleware Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.6: JC to complete Production Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.7: NG to complete Interoperability Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.8: DB to complete General Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.9: SP to produce business cards for Dave Colling
ongoing
159.11: RJ to make Andrew fully aware of ATLAS plans
ongoing
159.12: SL to get reports of Tier-2 internal structures.
done
159.13: TC to extract LCG issues from GridPP12 talks
ongoing
159.14: RM to extract Middleware issues from GridPP12 talks
ongoing
159.19: DB to make list of all GridPP people and their roles
ongoing
159.20: RJ/JC to organise a meeting to discuss integration of experiment
planning and service challenges
ongoing - a second meeting is to be organised
159.23: TD to contact Minos to see what their requirements are
ongoing
159.24: RJ/TD to contact (other) experiments to find out priority use cases
ongoing
161.1: SL to contact Regional Tier-2 centres for their policies
on resources allocated per institute.
done
161.2: JG - what is long term plan for Grid operations
ongoing
162.1: SP to send a reminder to UKHEPGRID for abstracts for AHM
done - TD to ask for volunteers
NEW ACTION 163.1: TD to inform CE that the PMB wish UK long-term
management plan for LCG to continue
NEW ACTION 163.2: all to read the article prepared by RJ for Grid Today
and send him comments by the end of the week.
Standing Items
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SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to SP.
A draft LCG press release is currently being prepared. A couple of
paragraphs on the UK is needed.
TD said he would forward an article he had produced for 'Frontiers'- this
was done during the meeting. SP said the IoP conference was taking place
in a few weeks and requested that up to date posters be made available for
this.
SP said DT had completed his questions for the 'Meet the PMB' item.
(this was posted on 8th March).
SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues.
reported earlier.
AOB
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Permission has been granted for JC to attend the International Symposium
on Grid Computing 2005 being held in Taipei.
TD said he was attending a PPAP meeting this week.
ACTIONS AS AT 7TH MARCH 2005
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140.9 RM to finalise LCG Deployment Logbook.
157.2: RJ - review experiment computing models for Tier-1 to Tier-2
interactions in the UK.
157.4: TD to co-ordinate development of Tier-1 allocation policy.
157.5: DB to co-ordinate development of new risk register.
157.9: RM to report on direction of GridPP in terms of middleware.
157.11: JG to provide info. on VAT exemption criteria.
157.12: SP to provide standard template talk for schools.
159.1: TC to complete LCG Risk Assessment Forms
159.2: RM to complete Middleware Risk Assessment Forms
159.6: JC to complete Production Risk Assessment Forms
159.7: NG to complete Interoperability Risk Assessment Forms
159.8: DB to complete General Risk Assessment Forms
159.9: SP to produce business cards for Dave Colling
159.11: RJ to make Andrew fully aware of ATLAS plans
159.13: TC to extract LCG issues from GridPP12 talks
159.14: RM to extract Middleware issues from GridPP12 talks
159.19: DB to make list of all GridPP people and their roles
159.20: RJ/JC to organise a meeting to discuss integration of experiment
planning and service challenges
159.23: TD to contact Minos to see what their requirements are
159.24: RJ/TD to contact (other) experiments to find out priority use cases
161.2: JG - what is long term plan for Grid operations
163.1: TD to inform CE that the PMB wish UK long-term management plan for
LCG to continue
163.2: All to read the article prepared by RJ for Grid Today and send him
comments by the end of the week.
STANDING ITEMS
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SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to
SP.
SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues.
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