My temper is not flaring.
I didn't tell you what you do and do not know.
I said I doubt anyone who has ever been near to suicide would say what you
have said. Experiencing the effect is not experiencing the cause.
Let's let it go, if you wish. It was your choice to make it public and tell
us your judgements. I wish you a resolution and some peace in your personal
situation. I trust you never experience the despair which might lead to
suicide
L
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Wolman <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Friday, March 25, 2005 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: A Rose for Emily & the Schindler Family
>It is a lot of things else, Ken; and I doubt anyone who has ever been near
to suicide would say what you have said - as with your use of "execute"
earlier you are asserting assumptions as unproblematic facts
>
>L
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Since tempers are flaring here and someone is likely to say some things
that can't be fixed, let's keep this brief.
I have known two attempted suicides and one who was successful. One of
the attempteds I used to sleep with. I was married to the sister of the
other attempter. The success deliberately gave herself a "hot shot" of
heroin in 1973 and her brother made the sincere promise to kill anyone
from her past--including her ex-husband--who showed up at the funeral.
So please don't tell me what I do and do not know about the attitude and
effects here unless you are speaking from direct knowledge you are
willing to share. I saw the effect on the families. I am seeing them
now. Yes, there is more than a dismissive attitude on the part of the
would-be suicide, there is desperation and hopelessness--but there also
appears to be a disregard for the consequences of his (or her) act on
the people who remain behind.
Perhaps my ex and my older son, both of whom lived with him for a year,
ought to have seen what was going on and did some sort of
"intervention"; but that is hard to do when you see the person every day
and don't quite take in the subtle decline. Whether or not my
brother-in-law dies, the repair work to fix what was broken will be
extensive and perhaps impossible to handle. Stephen shattered lives.
This is not Masada.
Note via the reply-to that I would prefer to take this conversation
private, if conversation there must be. Right now I'm sorry I ever
brought it up.
Ken
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