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Re: A Rose for Emily & the Schindler Family

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Ken Wolman <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:12:27 -0500

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Lawrence Upton wrote:

>>.So this selfish bastard--yes, for what is suicide but a "fuck you"
>>
>>
>gesture to people who love and care for you?
>
>It is a lot of things else, Ken; and I doubt anyone who has ever been near to suicide would say what you have said - as with your use of "execute" earlier you are asserting assumptions as unproblematic facts
>
>L
>
>
Since tempers are flaring here and someone is likely to say some things
that can't be fixed, let's keep this brief.

I have known two attempted suicides and one who was successful.  One of
the attempteds I used to sleep with.  I was married to the sister of the
other attempter.  The success deliberately gave herself a "hot shot" of
heroin in 1973 and her brother made the sincere promise to kill anyone
from her past--including her ex-husband--who showed up at the funeral.
So please don't tell me what I do and do not know about the attitude and
effects here unless you are speaking from direct knowledge you are
willing to share.  I saw the effect on the families.  I am seeing them
now.  Yes, there is more than a dismissive attitude on the part of the
would-be suicide, there is desperation and hopelessness--but there also
appears to be a disregard for the consequences of his (or her) act on
the people who remain behind.

Perhaps my ex and my older son, both of whom lived with him for a year,
ought to have seen what was going on and did some sort of
"intervention"; but that is hard to do when you see the person every day
and don't quite take in the subtle decline.  Whether or not my
brother-in-law dies, the repair work to fix what was broken will be
extensive and perhaps impossible to handle.  Stephen shattered lives.
This is not Masada.

Note via the reply-to that I would prefer to take this conversation
private, if conversation there must be.  Right now I'm sorry I ever
brought it up.

Ken

--
Kenneth Wolman
Proposal Development Department
Room SW334
Sarnoff Corporation
609-734-2538

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