Hi,
Just to pickup/re-enforce a couple of points made:
Before you can really make a decision on this you need to answer these
questions, and then an answer can be found:
1. Who is the audience?
2. What equipment, bandwidth and platform will they have?
3. How many are there of them and are they in one location or many, UK or
International?
4. What will their role be in the actual video?
5. What are you wanting to show them, a talk, a presentation, a film, a
launch etc?
6. How much money do you have now, and how much will you have in the future?
Some stock answers:
1. If the audience are unknown general website users, then an across the
board solution can be found, where as if you know that its a school or
company in Glasgow, then look at a conferencing solution.
2. Knowing your audience is important, as you get an idea of what they are
using, if they are MAC based, then you may want to offer QuickTime as well
as Windows Media. If they are on dialup then a low bandwidth option should
be considered, but this could also effect how you do it, there's no point
doing video for a locked off headshot interview, just have a still and an
MP3.
3. If your looking at everyone in the world seeing your movie, then look at
using a streaming service which has the support of global servers, we use
Groovy Gecko, and offer a 150kbits/sec for a reasonable quality broadband.
4. If you are expecting questions from the online audience from anywhere in
the world, then Live Streaming good, if not, then just post stream it, and
they can watch your edited version at their own leisure.
5. Editing live a stream requires a lot of kit if its a big event, even the
3 camera live stage events we have done here require a reasonable amount of
resource. Camera operators, floor manager, online editor/moderator,
director, sound operator etc. The type of footage can also be an issue, fast
moving footage on a 56k dialup will look hideous and only worth doing on
150+
6. If you have lots of money now, but none in the future, then streaming
might not be the best solution. Streaming will cost you money, the more
people who watch it the bigger your bandwidth bill, so work with you
streaming company to prevent any sudden costs. Imagine if you used a
streaming service to show your friends 'Star wars Boy', you'd be skint. How
long do you really need it up there. Editing a video using Adobe, or a
professional provider can be expensive, could you get away with using IMovie
or Windows Movie Maker?
Hope this helps.
Tim Burnett
Web Manager
National Museum of Photography, Film & Television
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From: Martin Bazley [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 3:25 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: costs of video-streaming?
Hi Jane, Bryan
I am curious: what is the advantage of actual streaming over, say,
delivering video clips via a Flash-based player (as in e.g.
www.VictorianLearningJourney.org.uk) ?
The user can view before the file has downloaded, and can pause/restart at
any point, so it is a bit like streaming, but I guess there must be
disadvantages: total size of clip able to be delivered?
Or are you looking at live transmission of e.g. videoconferencing?
Incidentally Jane my experience of video editing is that it
- is not difficult to do yourself (try Adobe Premiere Elements editing
software) but
- takes ages, especially if you are not used to it, and
- gettting a really good result is probably only achievable by experienced
video productoin people... which is probably where you came in anyway! I
know you can pay £1000 or more per day for professional production, but you
should be able to find someone (esp based out of London, e.g. I know
someone in Kent) to do a reasonable job for £200-250 a day.
Hope some of that is useful - and hope one of you can explain why real
streaming is needed..
See you
Martin
At 14:54 20/06/2005 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi Sarah
>
>Not sure if it answers many of your questions, but we are looking into
>web streaming here at the LTM, partly for our own collections and partly
>for the 20th century London project.
>
>We are travelling down the QuickTime route, and using the free QuickTime
>Darwin Streaming server. We have investigated Windows media server and
>looked at the Real-time Helix server, However Darwin seemed to come out
>on top for us.
>
>One of the things I am very keen to do is investigate a London Hub
>streaming server, where we can all put our videos on, and point to them
>via our own web sites and the 20C London site. ( This could,
>potentially, expand out further if successful )
>
>The big issue with streaming is bandwidth and storage. Bandwidth is the
>major cost. At the moment I am investigating cost options and whether we
>can get the hub to part fund as part of the London Hub ICT Strategy, or
>else each institution pay a small cost if they want to participate.
>
>This might solve your hosting issues, however, the actual video
>production itself is another matter and again costly. We have the
>capacity to capture in real time existing videos but not to create new
>productions. Hopefully someone else can help with that point.
>
>
>Feel free to give me a ring
>
>Bryan
>
>Bryan Wills
>Network Systems Manager
>London's Transport Museum
>Covent Garden Piazza
>London WC2E 7BB
>T: 020 7565 7288
>F: 020 7565 7254
>www.ltmuseum.co.uk
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>
>
>
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>From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>Sarre, Jane
>Sent: 20 June 2005 14:23
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: costs of video-streaming?
>
>
>Hi,
>
>We're thinking about developing a set of video presentations that can be
>streamed over the web for viewers. Do you have any experience of this?
>If so, any thoughts on the following would be appreciated:
>
>1
>general advice/experiences/lessons learned
>
>2
>costs of video production
>
>3
>costs of streaming
>
>4
>recommendations of companies to work with
>
>5
>other resource implications?
>
>Many thanks,
>
>Jane
>
>
>Jane Sarre
>Access & Learning Officer, Access & Learning
>Museum of London
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