This is actually a good point.  We could end up with a programme that
totally misrepresents information professionals, because it is about some
spotty teenager who packs books for Amazon!




>From: "Ajibade, Tayo" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Faking It saga continues!!
>Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:11:26 +0100
>
>If by fellow professional you mean someone with a library or information
>qualification, how do we know that fellow professionals i.e. qualified
>librarians have applied?
>
>According to the email reply, sent to one of our colleagues, by the
>Faking It team, "We are not looking for an outdated image of a librarian
>but someone who works with books who lacks confidence." This description
>could equally apply to anyone who works in a booksellers, loads new
>stock on the bookshelves in the supermarket or anyone employed just to
>do library reshelving.
>
>The age range in the original request was from 18-30 years. This also
>suggests that the Faking It team were not necessarily  looking for a
>qualified librarian or someone who regards library and information work
>as a profession or that they even realised that librarianship is
>something that people can qualify for or requires more than just working
>with books.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [log in to unmask]
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Keith O'Sullivan
>Sent: 18 April 2005 15:33
>To: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>Cc: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: RE: Faking It saga continues!!
>
>
>To be honest, Andy, the reply you received was outrageous, (in terms of
>etiquette) quite unprofessional, and merits a rebuke from the top. It is
>little wonder that there is a lot of anger when even the more liberal or
>enlightened media - The Guardian springs to mind - routinely recycle
>stereotypes about information workers. The media function as powerful
>social opinion-formers, and as such should take their responsibilities
>more seriously than, on this evidence anyway, is sometimes the case...
>
>I was saddened to read, though, that some fellow professionals seem to
>have demeaned themselves - and the rest of us- by applying and agreeing
>to be doormats to this organisation. CILIP are to be commended on this
>occasion for acting so promptly.
>
>Keith M C O'Sullivan
>Canterbury Cathedral Librarian
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of ZELINGER, Andy
>Sent: 18 April 2005 15:02
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Faking It saga continues!!
>
>They were obviously getting a bit tetchy by the time I got this reply
>from them (below):
>
>"Thanks for you email Andrew, I must say I've never come across a group
>of people with such a huge chip on their shoulders.. If you don't fit
>the profile then don't apply.. we've had plenty of librarians who do fit
>the profile and have applied. Why do you feel you have the right to
>speak for a lot of people you don't even know?
>
>I shall add your email into the hey look at me 'I'M A librarian BUT I'M
>REALY LOUD AND CRAZY' file..
>
>Thanks again.."
>
>
>
>
>
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>-----Original Message-----
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>From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bing, Pamela
>Sent: 18 April 2005 14:55
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Faking It saga continues!!
>
>
>I also sent a message outlining their error in the stereotyping of
>librarians and got the following response:
>
>  "Pam we're simply looking for someone who is not overly confident and
>works in a library - I feel we may have touched a nerve amongst
>librarians as I've had some very harsh emails about the "stereotyping
>media"! We are not looking for an outdated image of a librarian but
>someone who works with books who lacks confidence.
>
>If you with to apply please fill in the attached form!"
>
>Maybe they got bored replying!!
>
>Pam
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Maria Cotera
>Sent: 18 April 2005 14:49
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Faking It saga continues!!
>
>
>This sounds unbelievable but, I have sent a message of complaint about
>the librarians issue to the Faking it programme and, guess what I got
>back? A message thanking me "for my interest in appearing on the next
>series of Faking It" - do they bother to read their mail??? and  an
>invitation to participate in a new programme talking about my
>sentimental relationships - Not in their wildest dreams!!!
>
>See message below for a laugh; it would be interesting to see if they
>have been able to find the shy and unconfident librarian at the end, and
>who has volunteered. Now, I intend to boycott the programme all together
>so I'll have to find out from my friends I guess.
>
>Best,
>Maria
>
>
> >Envelope-to: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: RE: Request for librarians
> >Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:22:19 +0100
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> >Thread-Topic: Request for librarians
> >Thread-Index: AcU+rdX6cPwn4p7HQo+T5g0OcDsGWAFa8xJQ
> >From: "FakingIt" <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sender: "Andrea Wiseman" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: "Maria Cotera" <[log in to unmask]>
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> >
> >Thank you for your interest in appearing on the next series of Faking
> >It.
> >
> >
> >
> >We have now found all the 'fakers' we need, however I am contacting you
> >to see whether you might be interested in taking part in a new and
> >exciting program we are making called 'His and Hers Friends'.
> >
> >
> >
> >We are looking for couples who feel that they have reached an important
> >turning point in their relationship; maybe you are thinking about
> >moving in together, buying a house or proposing?  Or maybe it's a
> >smaller defining moment like saying 'I love you' for the first time or
> >taking them home to meet the parents?  On the other hand, maybe you are
>
> >going through a rocky patch and are debating whether it is worth
> >struggling on...this could be the make or break point that you have
> >been looking for?
> >
> >
> >
> >You will then swap each other's friends for 3 days - going to football
> >matches with the lads or shopping with the ladies, in an attempt to
> >find out more about each other and determine what the next stage in the
>
> >relationship should be.
> >
> >
> >
> >We are still in the early stages of looking for people however if you
> >are interested please complete the attached application form and return
>
> >it to [log in to unmask] with a current photo of you both
> >(applications will not be considered without one).  If you have any
> >questions, please do not hesitate to contact me direct on 0207 013 4296
> >
> >
> >
> >Look forward to hearing from you,
> >
> >
> >
> >Kind regards
> >
> >
> >
> >Andrea Wiseman
> >
> >'His and Hers Friends'
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Maria Cotera [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >Sent: 11 April 2005 16:48
> >To: FakingIt
> >Subject: Request for librarians
> >
> >Dear Sir
> >
> >I am most disappointed to learn that your idea of a librarian is
> >someone
> >
> >"quite shy, underconfident and disinterested in popular culture". I
> >would like to know why, when looking for someone who will fit that
> >bill, someone in your programme had the bright idea to look for a
> >librarian.
> >
> >   An stereotypic takes a long, long time to be changed...new and
> >enthusiastic library and information professionals are working really
> >hard to change that stereotypic which proves to be completely false
> >nowadays and
> >your programme announcement for volunteers has really offended us.
> >
> >Perhaps television researchers should start coming to libraries?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Maria
> >
> >
> >
> >Maria Cotera,
> >Cataloguer,
> >Library Services,
> >University College London,
> >Gower Street,
> >London WC1E 6BT.
> >
> >Tel: 020 7679 2302
> >[log in to unmask]
> >http://www.ucl.ac.uk
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>Maria Cotera,
>Cataloguer,
>Library Services,
>University College London,
>Gower Street,
>London WC1E 6BT.
>
>Tel: 020 7679 2302
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