I agree with Wayne, just an additional point. The Java and Python versions
are for the basic framework and the subroutine libraries. Those are indeed
developed in parallel. If you are thinking only about the NMR analysis
program, CcpNmr Analysis, that is what you would use as a replacement for
NmrView or Felix, there is only one version. It is written in Python and
C, with Tcl/Tk and OpenGL for the graphics, and it runs on all platforms.
Other peoples programs might be in Python, Java, or other languages, and
could still interface as long as they used the same XML files (or
database). But there are no plans to make a Java version of Analysis.
Another point - the documentation onthe web site is sometimes slightly
behind the latest release. But the release in downloads is 1.18 now.
Dr. Rasmus H. Fogh Email: [log in to unmask]
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Wayne Boucher wrote:
> To answer some of the questions:
> (1) We just put release 18 out today (I just checked and that is indeed
> what the website says, so if you see differently then maybe you are
> looking at a cached version of that webpage). I think release 17 was out
> at the end of August. Depending on how things go so far we've been
> putting out a release every month or so.
> (2) One of the points of the CCPN API is that the software developer will
> be able to code in one of several languages. It just so happens that
> Python and Java were the first two. They will both be supported in the
> future and we hope to add C++/C and Perl and a modern Fortran, dependent
> on demand and resource. Currently the Python API is much better tested
> and used than the Java one (the former is beta, the latter alpha). There
> is also the question of storage format and so far we have used XML (for
> Python and Java) and SQL (for Java), which should cover what most people
> would want (XML being good for single-user desktop applications and SQL
> being good for multi-user client server applications).
> (3) We have talked with Montelione, and Wim is probably better placed than
> me to comment more precisely about that.
> On Sat, 9 Oct 2004, Yufeng wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I have been watching the maillist for a while.
> > I am looking for an alternative to NMRView or Felix but have
> > not tried CCPN software suites yet.
> > With the new relase several questions about CCPN come to my mind:
> > 1. You don't upgrade the version number for the new release?
> > It was version b.17 for Analysis for a while and it is still
> > b.17 for the new release?
> > 2. You have Python and Java releases, will one of them predominate
> > or the two will be developed in parallel?
> > 3. The idea of data-centered model is interesting, and also probably
> > the trend of recent software development. I notice a recent
> > paper on Chem Rev.(2004) v.104 p.3541 by Montelione and co-workers,
> > talking about a little bit about CCPN, but it seems they are
> > adopting another way of SPINS database for the integration problem.
> > So I was wondering how these two will compete or complement with
> > each other.
> > Sorry if any of these questions seem offensive.
> > Yufeng
> > ======= At 2004-10-09 00:32:00 you wrote =======
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >I've just put a new release out (available from the usual spot,
> > >http://www.ccpn.ac.uk/downloads/downloads.html) for the FormatConverter
> > >and Analysis. The usual collection of bug fixes and additional features,
> > >some of which have been mentioned in recent postings here. (Wim and Tim
> > >can add more if they want.)
> > >
> > >Wayne
> > >.
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> > Yufeng Tong
> > Dept. Physiol. & Biophys.
> > Case Western Reserve Univ.
> > Cleveland, Ohio 44106
> > Tel: (216)368-8654 (O)
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